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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Stein so Chris O'Brien is off on a

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Grand Canyon run it apparently I am kind

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of afraid of heights so I don't take

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Grand Canyon runs but someday I might

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try them you know I'll take some kind of

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antidepressant or anti-anxiety pill and

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see if it works

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Alejandro Rojas have open minds and the

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International UFO conferences here yes I

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am with a freshly brewed cup of coffee

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freshly proved Keurig here and I can

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confirm that that is correct I am on the

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call okay and we also confirm on a

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landline the one the only Walter Bosley

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now Walter we hope would connect from

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his Skype account but Skype doesn't like

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Walter it has its moments we have a hot

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and cold relationship Skype and I but

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you know I'm the guy that writes about

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you know the breakaways from a hundred

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years ago in the old days so it's

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fitting that I'm on a landline and

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you're using an original Alexander

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Graham Bell phone now yes I am and I

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record these shows on a wax cylinder

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somebody's gonna have to explain I guess

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I could look it up online it's more fun

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if you know somebody explains it but

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I've never really read technically how

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that works and I find it interesting so

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I'm gonna have to bone up on wax

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cylinder recordings because they're just

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so so cool but back to Skype as I was

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telling you earlier the issue that I

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have is it'll work great for seemingly

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the longest time like my last run was a

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little over a year it worked fine for me

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and then suddenly it will not ever work

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and it'll do that to me for however long

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and then it'll start working again and

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that's even when I'm updating and people

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are guiding through it's just it

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this weird thing that's been my

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experience with it one of the things

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Skype did recently was to come out with

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a Skype aid for the Mac it's a

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completely different interface but

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rather than give you the choice of

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accepting it they just threw it at you

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oh no that's not cool and they're things

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I cannot do with Skype eight that I

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could do with Skype seven so for example

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you're using a landline phone alejandro

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is using regular Skype connection now

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normally I could originate the phone

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conversation either way then add

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somebody to a group right but when I

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originate it from a landline phone or

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any phone connection and it uses a

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special dial pad for some reason it

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won't let me add a Skype caller I have

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to do the reverse I add the Skype caller

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first and then the landline phone

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that's weird luckily you know I didn't

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upgrade and it was cuz you warned me

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because I was on the show I think the

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same day the upgrade happened and you

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guys said don't upgrade so I didn't so

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I'm still on seven luckily you can get

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seven if you do a Google search for it

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and on the Windows platform I'm not sure

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yeah I'm on a match so yeah and and of

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course I just like you guys I use it for

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my podcast and everything so I live and

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die by it and I don't want to lose any

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functionality so so yeah luckily I'm

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still on seven until I get the okay from

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you because I know you're a tech guru

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I'm gonna stick with seven you will be

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glad to know though that I'm coming

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really into the 21st century because

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let's see last year I got a tablet and

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this year I got for Christmas I got a

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new set of headphones

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I got a Roku stick I even got an

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election new electric toothbrush and

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because my old one was dying and I just

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the other day got my first iPhone yes

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indeed I've joined the ring with I've

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never had a smartphone until just a

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couple of days ago well I am when are

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never years ago before my finances hit

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the skids I had a very more modestly

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elaborate audio system with a two

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preamplifier all tubes oh wow

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alright this is like 2005 or 2006 and I

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was helping out a relative and he need

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the money yesterday so I decided you

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know I'm not really listening to this

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anymore I'm just watching TV or I'm

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working on my Mac so I sold everything

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for several thousand dollars and raised

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the money because I never got paid back

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so that's a sticking point I had this

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beautiful set of what they call ribbon

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loudspeakers like six feet high and

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piano black flat panel speakers right

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and these this humongous amplifier with

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like 400 watts of channel you know you

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don't wanna hear about my electric this

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the old days oh god yeah I would imagine

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I would imagine well I don't have a tube

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radio but what I do have is one of those

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delightfully corny it's an emerson

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product it's a radio CD player that's in

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you know like a 1920 style wood type of

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box looking things so that it looks like

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an old-time radio fact I've used it in

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my films you know and other little

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projects where you put in like an old

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radio show the shadow or something you

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know and you it just looks like you're

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in the 20s you know listening to or the

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30s or whatever listening to the shadow

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and your old timey radio but of course

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it's modern technology it's not quite

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like a tube radio we're gonna get off

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the technology in one second here I just

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want to mention one of the company here

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it's called Crosley

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that's an old long name but they make

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combo players record player really read

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feel like they have hear the musician

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entertainment center with bluetooth and

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you look at it it's from the 1940s but

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it has the CD player it has the record

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player it has the

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am FM radio you know I might have

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mentioned it when we've talked retro

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tech in the past but in case I didn't

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the first time I remember our family

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getting a new TV I was 6 years old 6 or

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7 years old and we got one of those

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Magnavox console jobs you remember those

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there in those Alejandro probably

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doesn't but because I fix when we got

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one but it had the it had the picture

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tube was round on the sides you know

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kind of flattened on the tops and it was

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a green glass I remember that and it was

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still curved and on one side you had a

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radio on the other side you had the

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remember those oh yeah oh yeah our first

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TV was I think a Sylvania or an RCA it

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was a 21 inch TV and we got our first TV

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kind of late in the game so when I was a

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kid I go to my uncle's house to watch my

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favorite shows to watch something like

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captain video and his video Rangers on

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the old DuPont TV network and the sad

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thing about those TV shows they were

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done live but nobody made a recording or

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a film where a kinescope which was

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making a film off the TV screen nobody

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did that so there are very very few of

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those original episodes available

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maybe two or three I saw but this went

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on for several years every day was like

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a TV science fiction serial show nothing

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after that nothing was retained well

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decade I think they kept everything in

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the 60s you know in the 70s and

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didn't they did not anticipate the

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nostalgia market back then I guess yeah

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sorry yeah this is a way before my time

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I'm happy to say

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and I'm like you know I always have

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especially because I need to be compact

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I always have the latest and greatest

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because luckily gave things get smaller

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and smaller and smaller so which is

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wonderful so I've got yeah I've been on

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the iPhone forever I've got my little

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Mac's even TV you know it's all

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streaming so yeah mm-hmm

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let's do our break we've got Walter

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Bosley who's been there and done that

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we have Alejandro Rojas is still getting

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there and Jean Steinberg you're in the

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Barrie cast we also have swag you know

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we have all these exclusive para cast

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for men and women we have a para cast

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a device that creates the illusion

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someone inside is watching TV even with

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fearful fake tv.com extenda bite is more

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than just a heart tonic do you have any

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of these symptoms night cramps in the

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hands and feet your arms and legs often

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go to sleep on short walks to your legs

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get aches and pains is your memory worse

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than it used to be ankles that swell

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late in the day has your blood pressure

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increased lately if you answered yes to

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even one of these questions you may have

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early warning signs of arterial

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blockages your body is saying that it is

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technology but I guess you know we can

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think here if we have the opportunity

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guys to get exposed to alien technology

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and try to reverse-engineer it we don't

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see any evidence of anything or would it

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be so far beyond us it would be magic to

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us this last conversation makes me think

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I wonder if they do come here they see

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our technology and then they begin to

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market it to their people because of a

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nostalgia thing looking but there's old

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human technology look at these cute

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little devices and you know becomes a

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whole industry out there yes the Ferengi

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are selling it I don't know I do think

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it depends because it depends on the

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level of their civilization you know

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where I'm coming from I don't think that

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every et that we encounter out there is

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going to be some ultra advanced a

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thousand ten thousand or twenty thousand

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years ahead of us and they're also moral

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I think what we're going to encounter

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are all sorts of different levels of

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civilizations we're all sorts of

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different levels of morality and ethics

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so I think it depends I there's probably

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a civilization out there that's you know

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more than one

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close to us that might just be just a

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little ahead of us and able to get here

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so to speak so in my opinion it depends

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on who you're dealing with

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yeah you know there are so many

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scenarios out there and of course I'm

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sure you're both big sci-fi fans just

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like I am and you know I always think

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about it could be for example maybe

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there are many civilizations Connie to

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your point that are at a certain level

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and they are aware of each other and

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maybe even observing us but we aren't at

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a level where we can detect them but

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then there are others that are not so

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far beyond us that we would be able to

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understand their technology if we were

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able to retrieve it you know I've heard

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of people with this idea that perhaps

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some of the probes are some things that

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we may be observing are not really maybe

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thousands of years ahead of us but maybe

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hundreds or even maybe dozens because

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we're already talking about sending

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these little solar devices to Alpha

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Centauri to go observe so it's possible

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you know there could be technologies

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that are not necessarily that advanced

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beyond our own that we could one day get

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a hold of well you see we also look at

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advanced technology like Star Trek

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okay but we've already brought to bear

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things like a communicator our iPhone

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which is also does the remote computing

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system that keeps tabs on things right

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and 20 years ago even as much as 20

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years ago the iPhone would have been

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like what the heck I mean this is

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extraordinary if we would have found one

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of those you know 20 years ago right but

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I'm saying here the artifact technology

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goes back to the 60s in terms of of our

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vision right of the 23rd century okay

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and you look at that stuff and you think

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a lot of that we've kind of already done

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or are starting to do scientists are

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looking into the possibilities of warp

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drive or matter transporters and such

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and you know they made in the 23rd

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century do things we can't even dream of

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on the other hand when you look at the

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Star Wars movies you know it's one thing

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one flaw you see in the Star Wars

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universe and that is nobody ever invents

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anything they're just redoing these

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planet destroyers all the technology

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seems to be a constant that has always

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existed and there's no mad scientist

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somewhere in a little room coming out

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with something new yeah of course but a

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lot of the fan fiction based around all

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of that stuff or some of the backstories

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include that sort of things there are

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these corporations that develop this and

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that for example Boba Fett with Star

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Wars he's from a culture where they

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create a lot of the spaceships that are

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used in the Star Wars universe and you

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know they're warriors so they build war

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machines and stuff so they do have

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backstories of these ideas of the

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technology being developed but what's

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fun about that is that you know they

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also have these stories of like the

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Millennium Falcon or something like that

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which are like ancient technologies so

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this is like an ancient spaceship that

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they're able to brush off and get

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working again but it's still because you

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know it's so far in the future and

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you're dealing with these large amounts

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of time the technology is not that

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outclassed even though it's something

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that's very old it's kind of a it could

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be to that in their world they have this

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military industrial complex it just

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wants to keep everybody down

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you know I'm buying only their

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technology but yeah that's cool that the

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you know the fan writers have have

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thought of that because you know in our

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world they're in reality you always have

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somebody you know working working on

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something new but then again consider

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that look how many years we've been

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using the combustion engine now of

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course it has greatly advanced since the

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days of you know the pre before the

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Model T days and what you have now you

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know your top racing engine but

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it's the same basic technology and I

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think that's what's going to happen you

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know with us you know in the future

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particularly the space technology there

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once they hit on the thing that you know

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you can get from here to Mars in a

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couple of days or whatever you know once

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they hit on something we're going to be

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using that for a long time just because

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the smart thing to do is to bring

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commerce into it because if somebody's

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making money it'll happen and you know

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if that works why replace it you know

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let's squeeze as much money out of this

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as we can for the next five centuries I

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really think that the history of the

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combustion engine in us with automobiles

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is kind of a precursor to how it's going

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to be with some spacecraft really so the

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improvements will not be the fundamental

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technology warp drive or whatever it's

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going to be around the edges so the

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basic technology of the internal

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combustion engine or diesel engine they

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go back decades what we see now is just

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working around the edges to make them

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cleaner and more efficient and that yeah

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so tame and junk driving things and to

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keep you know it keeps industry going

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you know in other words it works well

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enough so people are happy with it right

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now people are happy with getting in

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their cars and driving you know from San

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Diego to LA or driving into work every

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day and more people in you know eastern

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cities you know with the trains and

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stuff like that if it works well enough

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the masses tend to say okay that's good

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enough so when the day comes that you

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know the average person is going to be

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dealing with space travel I'm not saying

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it's going to be Rockets but what I'm

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saying is whatever they hit on that is

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the economic viable we can use this

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every day and make our money providing

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this service blah blah blah whatever

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I think whatever they hit on yeah I

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think we'll use that whatever it is for

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quite a while because if it works you

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know that's what they'll use well and

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that's kind of where we are right now

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which is interesting I mean we had the

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Apollo program and then we moved on to

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the shuttle which in some ways was was

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not too terribly more advanced and

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now we're going back I mean they

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literally had to brush off some of that

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technology from the Apollo program and

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relearn how to do some of those things

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when they started the Orion project to

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go to Mars because now we need big

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rockets again to push these capsules

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into space so it's an example that let's

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do our break we'll continue with this

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war with Gene Alejandro and Walter

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UFO calm you're listening to the Peres

604
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cash the gold standard of paranormal

605
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radio so we have to basically relearn

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what we learned in 1969 and figure out

607
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how to do it again except at a cost of a

608
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million times more money

609
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well you perhaps could argue that when

610
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it comes to NASA but not when it comes

611
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to the commercial or private space and

612
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that's what's exciting about private

613
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space industry is that and why people in

614
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think it would be possible that the

615
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numbers are astronomical compared to the

616
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profit that could be made but Elon Musk

617
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and others have been proving that you

618
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know they can do it economically and

619
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that's what sparked up this whole

620
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industry and now many people in the

621
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:01,770
space that I've talked to in the

622
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,020
industry talk about how this is really a

623
00:28:08,889 --> 00:28:06,480
race for Elon to be the first guy to

624
00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:08,899
shuttle people back and forth and to

625
00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:12,390
corner the market there and kind of to

626
00:28:17,539 --> 00:28:15,169
your point earlier it's not so much

627
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continuing developing a technology it's

628
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:20,450
developing a technology that is cheap

629
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Confederate people back and forth and

630
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:25,169
that's what they'll stick with and no

631
00:28:30,019 --> 00:28:27,450
fair it make a bunch of money sending

632
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,029
people back and forth for space tourism

633
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but also for mining and all of these

634
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,750
other things that that people want to do

635
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:35,520
and I'm gonna bring it up I'm gonna

636
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bring it up because it's what popped

637
00:28:43,539 --> 00:28:40,770
into my head on the subject of what I'm

638
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:43,549
gonna bring up one of the best ways

639
00:28:48,289 --> 00:28:45,929
personally I think that it's is that we

640
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:48,299
can force it to happen is when we do

641
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:50,039
exactly what Alejandra is saying that

642
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:51,690
Elon and them want to do you on must

643
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:52,980
going to want to do and that's get the

644
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,490
common person with access to space

645
00:28:59,450 --> 00:28:57,600
that's how we're gonna get this

646
00:29:03,380 --> 00:28:59,460
disclosure that everybody wants because

647
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:03,390
once we you know you mean gene and the

648
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:05,250
listeners you know can buy a ticket and

649
00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:07,860
grow up in space whatever and whoever's

650
00:29:12,019 --> 00:29:10,679
up there we now potentially have direct

651
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:12,029
access to and they

652
00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:14,429
hide that crap from us you know at that

653
00:29:21,379 --> 00:29:17,580
point on the other hand they might try

654
00:29:24,259 --> 00:29:21,389
to limit what access these private guys

655
00:29:26,539 --> 00:29:24,269
give because of that but that's another

656
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:26,549
issue entirely but that's why it's so

657
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,710
important for these guys to be doing

658
00:29:32,989 --> 00:29:31,200
this because that's what we need to

659
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:32,999
answer our questions about what and

660
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,460
who's out there is we've just got to

661
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:37,440
quit trying to go through official

662
00:29:42,019 --> 00:29:40,049
sources or one or two people you know

663
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,029
we've all got to be able to get up there

664
00:29:46,339 --> 00:29:44,460
ourselves and see for ourselves and

665
00:29:48,469 --> 00:29:46,349
again that's why it's so important that

666
00:29:51,619 --> 00:29:48,479
these private guys do this

667
00:29:55,999 --> 00:29:51,629
I think I'm wondering here also with

668
00:29:59,869 --> 00:29:56,009
this latest stuff about the quote

669
00:30:02,769 --> 00:29:59,879
unquote secret Pentagon UFO study where

670
00:30:05,209 --> 00:30:02,779
was outsourced to rot or Bigelow and

671
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:05,219
people looking at it now like as some

672
00:30:10,869 --> 00:30:08,210
real special thing and I have my doubts

673
00:30:13,399 --> 00:30:10,879
it's already starting to kind of fade

674
00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:13,409
after the initial excitement now you

675
00:30:19,489 --> 00:30:15,899
have an intelligence background so we're

676
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,499
looking at the sky Elizondo as some kind

677
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:21,679
of whistle blower what's your feeling

678
00:30:28,579 --> 00:30:25,769
okay I know I grumble out there I make

679
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:28,589
jokes I make comments but here's really

680
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:32,190
the serious issue that I have with this

681
00:30:40,570 --> 00:30:36,330
is I don't have a conceptual problem

682
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:40,580
with let's say this is some plan for

683
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:43,710
disclosing to the public you know that

684
00:30:47,869 --> 00:30:45,299
they know and they're encountering eat

685
00:30:51,019 --> 00:30:47,879
Jesus stuff the problem I'm having with

686
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:51,029
it is how it's being done now Elizondo I

687
00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:53,849
sincerely doubt he's going to lie about

688
00:31:00,560 --> 00:30:55,830
you know having worked for the agency

689
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:00,570
and you know the problem is and I just

690
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:03,210
watched one of the appearances he did on

691
00:31:08,959 --> 00:31:06,570
a new show that was linked in in another

692
00:31:12,499 --> 00:31:08,969
forum somewhere somebody sent it to me

693
00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:12,509
and just with from coming from my

694
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:14,039
perspective my professional perspective

695
00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:16,690
but the problem I have

696
00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:19,540
is even the extent with which he's

697
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:21,550
talking about what they supposedly

698
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:24,580
allegedly did in this this program it

699
00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:29,410
seems like to me he's saying more than a

700
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:32,200
secrecy agreement would allow so

701
00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:35,050
therefore that's why why I have the

702
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:38,200
impression that there's some type of

703
00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:41,590
perception management thing going on and

704
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:43,780
that even though he's no longer staff

705
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:48,220
agency he could be contract agency kind

706
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:51,160
of a discreet undercover contract see

707
00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:53,890
that that's how that would work is you

708
00:31:57,630 --> 00:31:55,660
know he does his twenty or thirty

709
00:31:59,250 --> 00:31:57,640
whatever years he did as a staffer and

710
00:32:03,630 --> 00:31:59,260
then he goes contract that happens a lot

711
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:03,640
in the CIA okay so that's the issue I'm

712
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:06,400
having as an intelligence guy okay so

713
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:09,130
yeah that's probably a cynical view to a

714
00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:12,460
lot of people but that's really you know

715
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:14,560
going back to what I said initially it's

716
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:17,350
how this is being done that raises the

717
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:21,490
red flags for me to what purpose to what

718
00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:22,840
purpose what a perception management

719
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:24,940
thing well the perception management

720
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:26,950
where are we trying to move the

721
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:29,830
perception just continue the mean that

722
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:32,320
et is here and now we have more evidence

723
00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:37,990
about it or what a couple of things okay

724
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:40,600
there's a spectrum they you know that

725
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:42,310
and there's of course the extreme end of

726
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:44,350
the spectrum but on the non extreme end

727
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:46,390
of the spectrum it could be that they

728
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:50,170
just want to trickle out the disclosure

729
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:53,890
so to speak so yeah they want to control

730
00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:56,350
how much of the real info is getting out

731
00:33:01,740 --> 00:32:58,390
there so so they'll do it in these

732
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:01,750
little ways and they just kind of want

733
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:05,710
to do the soft approach because you know

734
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:07,390
without beating a dead horse going back

735
00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:08,800
to that old thing about the brookings

736
00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:10,660
blah blah blah blah blah little freak

737
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:13,500
people out yeah it probably will freak

738
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:15,910
some people out you know a lot of people

739
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,660
out not everyone so you know it could be

740
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:22,000
they just want to trickle it out the

741
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:25,690
extreme end people would point to the

742
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:28,690
the alleged you know deathbed confession

743
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:30,050
of Wernher von Braun type

744
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:33,890
thing where it's all just a big they're

745
00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:37,970
going to use the whole alien mean as a

746
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:41,420
big military industrial complex ruse to

747
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:44,330
do all this new world order stuff you

748
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:46,730
know whatever your favorite meme on that

749
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:48,650
is but that that's the other extreme

750
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:50,990
that it could be that they're just using

751
00:34:00,250 --> 00:33:54,640
the they want to use the alien threat

752
00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:00,260
idea to get everybody to buy off on how

753
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:02,180
they want to govern the world and and

754
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:06,320
whatever I you know I'm not I'm not the

755
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:09,190
originator of that idea by any means but

756
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:13,070
it it's some saying there's a spectrum I

757
00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:15,050
think of what the possibilities are as

758
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:16,940
to what they would be doing and why with

759
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:19,010
a perception management issue I I would

760
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:21,410
say more realistically that if that's

761
00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:24,440
what they're doing as far as disclosing

762
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:28,100
ETS and what they know then right now I

763
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:32,330
say they're doing the Trickle they're

764
00:34:37,810 --> 00:34:35,270
trying to do the trickle strategy where

765
00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:37,820
they're just gonna piecemeal it but

766
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:40,760
still I think to me from my point of

767
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:43,490
view they're doing it very awkwardly if

768
00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:46,460
that's what they're doing well we're

769
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:48,140
also assuming there's a long-range plan

770
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:50,330
here that maybe has existed for quite a

771
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,230
while possibly sure that's very positive

772
00:35:00,400 --> 00:34:56,000
it all depends on how long they've known

773
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:00,410
about these guys you know that's the

774
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:02,900
thing it all depends on how long and we

775
00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:06,530
did for you know between us you know a

776
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:08,900
bunch of people in how long we think

777
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:10,970
they've known you know I say this long

778
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:13,280
the you say that long other people say

779
00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:14,990
you know just and that's personal

780
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:18,980
opinion but yeah I would say there's

781
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:21,710
been some type of plan I don't think

782
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:23,510
that a lot of people here's my problem

783
00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:25,610
with these articles there's a lot of

784
00:35:29,050 --> 00:35:26,660
people out there that are getting the

785
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,060
impression that the government didn't

786
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,520
start looking at UFOs until the year

787
00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:33,200
this particular program started I think

788
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:36,020
like 2005 or something right and I've

789
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:37,970
talked with people that are kind of new

790
00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:40,400
to the UFO thing and they think you know

791
00:35:43,989 --> 00:35:42,109
oh wow they're finally looking at it

792
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:43,999
you know all of us who are you know over

793
00:35:49,509 --> 00:35:47,119
30 years old you know we know that

794
00:35:51,729 --> 00:35:49,519
they've been looking at it for four

795
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:51,739
decades that part was nothing new I

796
00:35:56,890 --> 00:35:54,920
think it was misleading the way it was

797
00:36:00,489 --> 00:35:56,900
put out there or people were misled

798
00:36:04,450 --> 00:36:00,499
thinking that it was just you know 2005

799
00:36:06,579 --> 00:36:04,460
that they started looking at this so I

800
00:36:08,769 --> 00:36:06,589
think that's a good point that's a point

801
00:36:12,190 --> 00:36:08,779
I've been trying to make with this whole

802
00:36:15,069 --> 00:36:12,200
thing is a couple big points and and one

803
00:36:16,329 --> 00:36:15,079
of them is that that not only is this

804
00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:16,339
not the first time that they've been

805
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:18,980
investigating for years but also they've

806
00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:20,450
claimed that when they stopped their

807
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:22,940
investigations in 1969 they haven't done

808
00:36:28,029 --> 00:36:25,130
anything since or had an interest and

809
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:28,039
now this shows that that was false that

810
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:30,799
we were not being told the truth let's

811
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,089
break it here and continue with that

812
00:36:40,580 --> 00:36:34,880
we've got Walter Alejandro and Jeanne

813
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:48,430
[Music]

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[Music]

901
00:41:10,570 --> 00:41:08,300
this is the wrong fire closer of the

902
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:10,580
applause I copied in other books you're

903
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,610
okay so Alejandra was starting this riff

904
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:22,800
about the impression that people might

905
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:25,830
have that finally the government is

906
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:28,410
investigating UFOs with this twenty two

907
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:30,090
million dollar program which is like you

908
00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:31,380
know the government's spending the

909
00:41:36,610 --> 00:41:33,260
equivalent of one-eighth of one cent

910
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:36,620
compared to their budget and not really

911
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:40,140
making such a deal of the fact that we

912
00:41:46,610 --> 00:41:43,130
had in the forties fifties and sixties

913
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:46,620
the various projects ending with project

914
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:49,920
Bluebook that it was shut down in 1969

915
00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:53,160
that they claimed with that point that

916
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:55,830
that was the end of it but obviously it

917
00:42:00,440 --> 00:41:58,290
wasn't alejandro right right right

918
00:42:02,570 --> 00:42:00,450
luckily space.com to his story just like

919
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,580
a couple days ago and they included my

920
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:04,800
quotes on that so he included that point

921
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:09,210
so luckily he felt it was Leonard David

922
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:11,190
it was a writer felt it was a valid

923
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:14,820
point and included that and that was a a

924
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:16,830
great point and here's some new

925
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:19,650
information that I haven't even let out

926
00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:21,930
yet but I will for the first time on the

927
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:24,180
show I luckily have been in regular

928
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:26,850
contact in last especially in the last

929
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:30,390
couple days with Lou Elizondo because he

930
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:31,980
was supposed to come and speak at our

931
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:35,460
conference and he's very excited to do

932
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:38,720
it however he's got medical procedure

933
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:42,060
around that same time and it turned out

934
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:43,260
he's not going to be able to be

935
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:46,170
physically present but we'll be doing an

936
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:48,870
interview that we'll be presenting at

937
00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:51,150
the converse that will be on Saturday

938
00:42:57,830 --> 00:42:54,870
with him and here's his motivation and

939
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,840
this speaks to you what we're saying he

940
00:43:03,550 --> 00:43:00,960
really wants to field everyone's

941
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:03,560
questions especially in the UFO arena

942
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:06,960
because he really wants to be open and

943
00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:10,170
aboveboard and he says he was inspired

944
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:13,140
to come out because of all of these

945
00:43:18,980 --> 00:43:15,420
people who put their credibility in

946
00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:18,990
there on the line to talk about this

947
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,230
stuff and and he was encouraged by that

948
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:24,060
so that's one of the points that he

949
00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:25,890
wants to make and he also wants to be

950
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:27,150
very open with Pete

951
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,970
but I get the sense and he says you know

952
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:32,720
he really did have to give up his career

953
00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:35,700
sacrifice you know I put on the line his

954
00:43:41,060 --> 00:43:39,360
reputation but he felt so strongly that

955
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:41,070
this information needed to be out that

956
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:45,030
he did so at the same time he is not

957
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:47,730
going to nor does he want to he's a

958
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:49,470
patriot he doesn't want to break any

959
00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:52,260
laws or or say anything he's not

960
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:55,620
supposed to say but I do get the

961
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,970
impression I don't get the impression

962
00:44:01,520 --> 00:43:59,280
whatsoever that he's lying I think over

963
00:44:03,650 --> 00:44:01,530
time you'll be able to have him on your

964
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:03,660
show we'll all have a lot more access to

965
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:07,350
him and for any of the audience members

966
00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:09,330
who want to ask him questions you can

967
00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:10,590
email them to me

968
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:12,900
because we're gonna do this interview in

969
00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:14,910
the next couple of weeks and so I'm

970
00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:16,590
gonna collect some questions and

971
00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:18,840
hopefully get a lot of what people want

972
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:21,750
to hear ask him about it so we could get

973
00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:22,890
out as much in this interview as

974
00:44:28,430 --> 00:44:25,590
possible he just just seemed like a very

975
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:28,440
genuine guy that way he wanted to get it

976
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:31,110
out that indeed there they are taking

977
00:44:36,250 --> 00:44:33,930
UFO seriously and he wanted to join this

978
00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:36,260
particular group because there's

979
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:39,360
scientists and engineers in this group

980
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:42,150
and they feel they've really discovered

981
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:43,890
something they feel that they have

982
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,010
gained some real insight into the

983
00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:50,520
technology that's being used so instead

984
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:53,100
of being maybe a contractor or a plant

985
00:44:59,420 --> 00:44:56,910
he's a true believer he is at this point

986
00:45:02,030 --> 00:44:59,430
maybe I think it wouldn't be a stretch

987
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:02,040
to say that you know we'll see to what

988
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:04,670
extent he wants to to go there

989
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:08,930
essentially he is a believer at least in

990
00:45:13,550 --> 00:45:11,490
there's a true mystery here that there's

991
00:45:16,490 --> 00:45:13,560
a technology being demonstrated that's

992
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:16,500
beyond our own and a technology that

993
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:20,640
perhaps we can duplicate for the benefit

994
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:23,850
of humanity well the technology

995
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:27,480
therefore would require access to the

996
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:30,510
spacecraft not necessarily they feel

997
00:45:35,330 --> 00:45:32,070
that they've been able to glean enough

998
00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:35,340
simply from observations you know some

999
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:36,980
of these guys have spoken to that a bit

1000
00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:40,110
at least you know how put off for

1001
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:40,980
example

1002
00:45:46,070 --> 00:45:43,619
speaks about you know possible tech ways

1003
00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:46,080
to warp speed and do all of these other

1004
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:49,950
things and yeah they feel they perhaps

1005
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:51,180
have gained enough simply from

1006
00:45:59,150 --> 00:45:53,940
observation what do you think Walter

1007
00:46:02,210 --> 00:45:59,160
I just wanted to inject an unless but I

1008
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:02,220
want to qualify that unless I don't

1009
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:06,690
disagree that he's probably sincere

1010
00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:10,140
about you know what he using the B word

1011
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,230
but what he believes you know about et

1012
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:16,380
and this subject in general but but as

1013
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:20,010
far as just being a guy who you know

1014
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,990
like many of us you know believe e t--'s

1015
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:24,240
out there and believe you know the UFO

1016
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:25,500
phenomena is real and he just wanted to

1017
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:27,000
get out there and interact and share

1018
00:46:35,390 --> 00:46:29,940
this stuff here's where the unless comes

1019
00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:35,400
in its unless he is operational to some

1020
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:36,900
degree there's different levels of

1021
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:39,000
operational you can be you know deep

1022
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:40,920
undercover you can be working under a

1023
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:44,910
shallow cover you can be not under any

1024
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:46,920
kind of shallow cover yourself your true

1025
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:50,010
identity but still operational now when

1026
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:52,830
you are operational okay and you are

1027
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:55,710
interacting with people and as part of

1028
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:58,260
that operational behavior you are

1029
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:02,400
expressing what is the we call it legend

1030
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:06,270
it's the you know your backstory you

1031
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,830
know this is who I am this is what I'm

1032
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:09,480
doing this is why I'm doing it that's

1033
00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:11,970
what you've created and you build it

1034
00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:14,190
around big giant fat nuggets of truth

1035
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:15,990
remember this particularly if you're not

1036
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:17,730
under even shallow cover if you're being

1037
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:19,980
yourself but you're operational when

1038
00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:25,130
you're operational it is very easy to be

1039
00:47:29,870 --> 00:47:28,320
convincing that none of it is legend

1040
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:29,880
none of it's made up and it's just

1041
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:31,260
really you this is sincere because

1042
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,090
remember in your mindset you're

1043
00:47:38,349 --> 00:47:35,760
operational so it's not like you're some

1044
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:38,359
criminal telling a heinous lie to

1045
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,010
defraud somebody or to do something

1046
00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:43,440
nefarious your operational you you

1047
00:47:47,330 --> 00:47:45,060
you're part of something that you

1048
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:47,340
believe in that you know is an important

1049
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:51,090
project or operation so it's easier to

1050
00:47:56,330 --> 00:47:54,210
be convincing I mean I've done it

1051
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:56,340
I've worked at the various levels of

1052
00:48:03,950 --> 00:47:59,700
what I'm talking about and you as you

1053
00:48:07,340 --> 00:48:03,960
live that legend that cover it's very

1054
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:07,350
it's a lot easier to be believable that

1055
00:48:13,580 --> 00:48:09,330
oh yeah he's an up-and up guy oh yeah

1056
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:13,590
he's really sincere so you got to keep

1057
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:15,930
that in mind from the intelligence

1058
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:18,330
operative perspective you know what I

1059
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:21,570
see is the possibility that he's just

1060
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:24,570
doing his job well and now let's step

1061
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:28,770
back it doesn't mean that the easy

1062
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:31,500
answer here isn't the truth necessarily

1063
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:33,150
you guys know the camp I come from I

1064
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,310
come from the campus I I put that in the

1065
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:37,440
small percentage of possibility smaller

1066
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,200
than most people but still it's there

1067
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:42,240
it's a possibility and yeah he could be

1068
00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:44,220
telling the truth you know that this

1069
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:48,540
could be to get stuff out but if there's

1070
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:50,150
a possibility that he could be

1071
00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:53,460
operational and there is here we you

1072
00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:55,230
know we kind of have to hold ourselves

1073
00:49:00,680 --> 00:48:57,780
and you know have that grain of salt

1074
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:00,690
they're nearby because nothing I've seen

1075
00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:03,210
and nothing I've heard in a description

1076
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:05,820
about him and his sincerity and stuff

1077
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:10,110
and I'm not demonizing him you know

1078
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:12,210
nothing I've seen tells me oh well he's

1079
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:14,190
definitely not operational there's no

1080
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:16,650
way he could be and remember again when

1081
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:18,950
you are operational your job is to

1082
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,450
convince people you know be convincing

1083
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:23,520
that you're not yeah I mean I've had

1084
00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:25,260
people ask me directly hey were you

1085
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,430
doing it oh no come on you know that's

1086
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:31,200
really interesting insight but there's

1087
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:32,460
there's another twist now I'd love to

1088
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:35,310
hear your feedback on this is that he is

1089
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:38,130
not alone it's one thing if he was all

1090
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:41,010
by himself like that's a bob lazar or

1091
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:42,450
some of these other people have come out

1092
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:45,570
but now he's with a group of guys now

1093
00:49:51,860 --> 00:49:48,240
given at least a couple of these guys

1094
00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:51,870
also worked in intelligence when in

1095
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:54,420
particular recently retired from the CIA

1096
00:49:58,850 --> 00:49:56,850
but some of the other people in the

1097
00:50:01,700 --> 00:49:58,860
group of course are how put off who's

1098
00:50:05,420 --> 00:50:01,710
been in you know this arena for a long

1099
00:50:06,850 --> 00:50:05,430
time Tom DeLonge Gary Nolan another

1100
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:06,860
scientist

1101
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:11,400
do you think then he would be fooling

1102
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:13,710
this group of people as well that would

1103
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:16,710
be part of his mission so to speak or

1104
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:19,110
does that to you lend any more

1105
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,010
credibility to him well yes that was his

1106
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:26,040
assignment yes he's doing that if that's

1107
00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:27,450
his assignment now whether it's

1108
00:50:32,990 --> 00:50:31,260
successful or not you know you know

1109
00:50:35,810 --> 00:50:33,000
you'd have to ask those people but

1110
00:50:37,580 --> 00:50:35,820
here's the thing a lot of people assume

1111
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:37,590
that well the guys who don't have the

1112
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:39,570
direct intelligence backgrounds or not

1113
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:41,310
the intelligence background well they're

1114
00:50:47,420 --> 00:50:43,290
not intelligence I got news for

1115
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:47,430
everybody okay for three years when I

1116
00:50:50,810 --> 00:50:49,260
was at wright-patt while I was at

1117
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:50,820
wright-patterson I you know I did this

1118
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:52,110
kind of thing through my whole career

1119
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but specifically specifically while I

1120
00:51:00,860 --> 00:50:57,570
was at wright-patterson I would recruit

1121
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people to work undercover operationally

1122
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who had no connection to intelligence

1123
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:06,750
agencies okay it was their specialty it

1124
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was what they had access to it was the

1125
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:10,680
fact that they had a clearance and I

1126
00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:12,660
would recruit them to work undercover

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for me oh god you're breaking my Walter

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we got breaking okay okay all right

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1186
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Steinberg

1187
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a pair of something of the power kiss a

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cat a para cat that's a combination of a

1189
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parrot on the current you gotta hear

1190
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that me let's continue our discussion

1191
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:28,260
there about you recruiting people who

1192
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:30,150
were not part of the military for your

1193
00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:33,450
operations yeah I mean I could recruit

1194
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:35,940
and I would and did civilians

1195
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:38,660
you know civilians that just had

1196
00:54:42,890 --> 00:54:40,740
security clearance level they had access

1197
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:42,900
to something that you know in in the

1198
00:54:48,190 --> 00:54:45,480
case I was doing it was for counter

1199
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:48,200
espionage provocations another term for

1200
00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:51,480
double agent Rhee but this isn't done

1201
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:53,160
just in double agent Rhee

1202
00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,530
you recruit whoever you think will be

1203
00:55:00,770 --> 00:54:57,780
useful and my point of bringing this up

1204
00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:00,780
is that mister Elizondo might not be

1205
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:03,180
working alone in the to the stars

1206
00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:05,250
academy there could be more than one of

1207
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:07,470
those guys who are actually part of the

1208
00:55:12,770 --> 00:55:10,770
same theoretical hypothetical operation

1209
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:12,780
that I'm talking about here see they

1210
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:15,180
don't have to have had an intelligence

1211
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:18,240
background necessarily to be recruited

1212
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,970
to do this you know they get they get

1213
00:55:26,059 --> 00:55:23,520
vetted they get analyzed then they get

1214
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:26,069
pitched and if they buy the pitch if

1215
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:28,200
they go yeah I'll do this they sign

1216
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:32,310
their agreements and they are undercover

1217
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,770
you know operationally employed by you

1218
00:55:41,210 --> 00:55:39,839
know whichever agency that is doing this

1219
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:41,220
for the purpose of that particular

1220
00:55:48,859 --> 00:55:44,400
operation and this is the possibility

1221
00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:48,869
that I see with for example Elizondo and

1222
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:50,790
you know the other guys with the to the

1223
00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:53,160
Stars Academy you could almost take it

1224
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:56,280
to the extreme that it's it it's kind of

1225
00:56:01,490 --> 00:55:57,990
like I want to say an all-star team but

1226
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:01,500
it's you know kind of Wow you know talk

1227
00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:03,900
about a dream situation let's just let's

1228
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:06,750
not just throw one whistleblower because

1229
00:56:10,339 --> 00:56:08,010
people are beginning to get suspicious

1230
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:10,349
about these whistleblowers let's throw a

1231
00:56:14,359 --> 00:56:12,750
whole team you know we'll throw so much

1232
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:14,369
atom that they'll just give up it's the

1233
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:15,930
shotgun approach for whistleblowers

1234
00:56:21,799 --> 00:56:18,180
really if you're looking at this as a

1235
00:56:23,809 --> 00:56:21,809
strategy so it might be that Elizondo

1236
00:56:26,989 --> 00:56:23,819
indeed not working alone in this their

1237
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:26,999
strengths and numbers so it again it all

1238
00:56:31,939 --> 00:56:29,849
comes down to you got it got to look at

1239
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,949
it and judge for yourself this is

1240
00:56:36,019 --> 00:56:33,839
fascinating it's good to have insight

1241
00:56:40,759 --> 00:56:36,029
from someone who did this sort of work

1242
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:40,769
and what's funny is Elizondo is not he's

1243
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:42,689
got a really good attitude towards his

1244
00:56:47,299 --> 00:56:45,180
speculation even the media who he says

1245
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:47,309
has gotten a lot of things wrong often

1246
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:48,689
because they're making assumptions just

1247
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:51,839
not necessarily out of maliciousness

1248
00:56:55,939 --> 00:56:54,089
just out of ignorance they just don't

1249
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,949
know any better they're translating the

1250
00:57:00,140 --> 00:56:57,599
information the best they can even

1251
00:57:01,729 --> 00:57:00,150
myself I'm using information and I've

1252
00:57:03,739 --> 00:57:01,739
written some things where the group has

1253
00:57:05,150 --> 00:57:03,749
said hey you're way off on that and I'm

1254
00:57:07,029 --> 00:57:05,160
just using stuff that I'm getting

1255
00:57:10,999 --> 00:57:07,039
because they haven't told me otherwise

1256
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:11,009
so and he has a great attitude about

1257
00:57:14,749 --> 00:57:13,170
that even a lot of the speculation out

1258
00:57:16,969 --> 00:57:14,759
there because his speculation gets

1259
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:16,979
pretty wild about the group and what

1260
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:19,920
they're doing out there he understands

1261
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:22,529
he even says as an intelligent person

1262
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:24,809
I'm skeptical he says when I when I

1263
00:57:29,329 --> 00:57:27,599
analyze information they're just doing

1264
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:29,339
the best they can with the information

1265
00:57:34,699 --> 00:57:31,650
that they have so he doesn't blame

1266
00:57:37,099 --> 00:57:34,709
people for speculating I don't think he

1267
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:37,109
would be offended by what you say I

1268
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:39,630
think he would say hey you know what I

1269
00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:41,369
understand from your perspective why you

1270
00:57:46,669 --> 00:57:44,099
have to keep this sort of thing in mind

1271
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:46,679
which you know because anything is

1272
00:57:53,959 --> 00:57:50,880
possible if he is doing something

1273
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:53,969
operational I unless I draw the line at

1274
00:58:00,679 --> 00:57:57,599
if there is some big evil plan to lie

1275
00:58:02,509 --> 00:58:00,689
about some alien threat you know to let

1276
00:58:03,919 --> 00:58:02,519
the military-industrial guys run the

1277
00:58:07,669 --> 00:58:03,929
world that would piss me off like

1278
00:58:09,529 --> 00:58:07,679
anybody ought let's set that aside I'm

1279
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,539
right about Elizondo and these other

1280
00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:11,599
guys you know they're doing this

1281
00:58:15,169 --> 00:58:13,859
operationally I don't really have a

1282
00:58:16,729 --> 00:58:15,179
problem with that if I were in their

1283
00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:16,739
position and they came to me and said

1284
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,109
hey you know back then it's like a

1285
00:58:22,939 --> 00:58:21,839
special agent Bosley this is what we're

1286
00:58:25,009 --> 00:58:22,949
going to do we're going to piecemeal

1287
00:58:27,169 --> 00:58:25,019
disclose this stuff to the public and we

1288
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:27,179
want you to be you know on our team of

1289
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:31,130
you know tricular x' yeah I do it too

1290
00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:33,290
that's the thing

1291
00:58:36,790 --> 00:58:35,390
yeah I you know and I know there's a lot

1292
00:58:39,130 --> 00:58:36,800
of people paranoid about me because I

1293
00:58:41,350 --> 00:58:39,140
was OSI but you know I understand that

1294
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:41,360
because I'm saying yes you're absolutely

1295
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:41,810
right

1296
00:58:47,350 --> 00:58:44,690
it's impossible I could be see I said

1297
00:58:49,230 --> 00:58:47,360
now I'm not by golly I wish I were

1298
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:49,240
because I'd be getting a paycheck

1299
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:51,290
because I'm driving a crappy

1300
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,330
ten-year-old car and you know I can't

1301
00:58:58,510 --> 00:58:56,000
afford a you know mac laptop but yeah

1302
00:59:00,790 --> 00:58:58,520
and that's my point is it could be not

1303
00:59:03,340 --> 00:59:00,800
to make anyone paranoid it's just

1304
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:03,350
something to you know the people do have

1305
00:59:09,550 --> 00:59:06,050
to keep in mind and this field is ripe

1306
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:09,560
for people to do that kind of thing and

1307
00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:12,370
because if it comes anywhere near

1308
00:59:16,990 --> 00:59:15,140
classified advanced technology yeah

1309
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,000
they're gonna play games with it they're

1310
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:19,280
gonna play games with the UFO field and

1311
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:21,770
and we just always have to keep that in

1312
00:59:28,210 --> 00:59:25,430
mind we know that that said again I

1313
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:28,220
don't demonize Elizondo for anything

1314
00:59:35,230 --> 00:59:32,000
I've seen I just say I put out there the

1315
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,240
possibility that it could be a let's

1316
00:59:39,550 --> 00:59:37,520
trickle out disclosure operation it

1317
00:59:41,050 --> 00:59:39,560
could be well another thing that you

1318
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:41,060
mentioned and I'd love to ask you about

1319
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:44,480
is this idea of the management the

1320
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:48,410
perception management and if Elizondo

1321
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:51,430
situation is as he says on the surface

1322
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,010
then there and it seems like there might

1323
00:59:59,830 --> 00:59:57,920
be what is a perception management going

1324
01:00:02,350 --> 00:59:59,840
on because there's no doubt there would

1325
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:02,360
be then discussions about how do we deal

1326
01:00:09,310 --> 01:00:07,040
with this Elizondo situation and and how

1327
01:00:12,190 --> 01:00:09,320
do we want to manage the perception of

1328
01:00:15,610 --> 01:00:12,200
him being out there and and what we've

1329
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:15,620
been up to and that seems like a shoe

1330
01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:18,110
that hasn't dropped a situation that

1331
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:20,140
hasn't been addressed and I don't know

1332
01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:24,110
what do you make of that okay you're

1333
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:26,030
saying that if we can take him at face

1334
01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:29,510
value and he really left the government

1335
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:30,980
so that he could share this info well

1336
01:00:36,730 --> 01:00:33,140
it's it's going to be it's plain and

1337
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:36,740
simple at any time when he violates

1338
01:00:40,270 --> 01:00:39,020
whatever secrecy agreement that's when

1339
01:00:42,310 --> 01:00:40,280
the agents are going to knock on his

1340
01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:42,320
door and remind him of that secrecy

1341
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:44,150
agreement and to the extent that he

1342
01:00:47,470 --> 01:00:45,650
violates it you know

1343
01:00:48,910 --> 01:00:47,480
plain and simple he'll be under the

1344
01:00:52,779 --> 01:00:48,920
public you know the potential of the

1345
01:00:57,849 --> 01:00:52,789
fine and/or imprisonment or both there

1346
01:01:00,400 --> 01:00:57,859
they don't play games with that so that

1347
01:01:02,589 --> 01:01:00,410
kind of to me because of what you just

1348
01:01:05,140 --> 01:01:02,599
said I mean he's been out there he's

1349
01:01:08,410 --> 01:01:05,150
saying you know things in the spirit of

1350
01:01:11,529 --> 01:01:08,420
oh yeah this is what we did this is what

1351
01:01:14,170 --> 01:01:11,539
we looked at if he's saying anything

1352
01:01:16,359 --> 01:01:14,180
that they're doing on a project that

1353
01:01:21,009 --> 01:01:16,369
they weren't telling the public about

1354
01:01:23,859 --> 01:01:21,019
that now he is revealing then if we're

1355
01:01:26,349 --> 01:01:23,869
taking him at face value he's putting

1356
01:01:29,470 --> 01:01:26,359
himself in deep trouble legally so

1357
01:01:31,989 --> 01:01:29,480
therefore we have to consider again that

1358
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:31,999
that may not be the case that he might

1359
01:01:38,529 --> 01:01:34,809
be working operationally under

1360
01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:38,539
instructions to do this by golly I quit

1361
01:01:43,329 --> 01:01:41,390
being a staffer guy because I'm really

1362
01:01:45,609 --> 01:01:43,339
into this and I really want to share it

1363
01:01:48,370 --> 01:01:45,619
with you that could be his assignment

1364
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:48,380
not an evil assignment that could just

1365
01:01:55,329 --> 01:01:51,410
be how they you know want to go about

1366
01:01:57,970 --> 01:01:55,339
doing this but if he's not on assignment

1367
01:01:59,620 --> 01:01:57,980
and he's now wanting to spill the beans

1368
01:02:02,589 --> 01:01:59,630
so to speak on what was being done in

1369
01:02:03,309 --> 01:02:02,599
this program that he was running or part

1370
01:02:06,370 --> 01:02:03,319
of the CIA

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01:02:08,229 --> 01:02:06,380
I'm telling you the minute he gets too

1372
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,239
close to violating that secrecy

1373
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:11,119
agreement he'll shut up he'll disappear

1374
01:02:16,210 --> 01:02:13,609
from interviews he'll resign from the

1375
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:16,220
thing or he'll get in in deeper trouble

1376
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,460
that's just the way that work so again

1377
01:02:22,539 --> 01:02:21,440
this is where the time will tell thing

1378
01:02:24,339 --> 01:02:22,549
because it's only been like what a

1379
01:02:27,339 --> 01:02:24,349
couple of months since these guys did

1380
01:02:28,989 --> 01:02:27,349
that Roscoe not even well October was

1381
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:28,999
when they did the press conference and

1382
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:31,130
it's only been a month that the New York

1383
01:02:34,930 --> 01:02:32,480
Times story came out

1384
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:34,940
you would think here guys that Allison

1385
01:02:41,739 --> 01:02:38,210
doe if he's legitimately doing this and

1386
01:02:46,539 --> 01:02:41,749
not as a plant from some agency that he

1387
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:46,549
fully understands his limits in advance

1388
01:02:53,890 --> 01:02:50,809
or maybe even nastier superiors hey what

1389
01:02:56,259 --> 01:02:53,900
can I say here without getting myself in

1390
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:56,269
trouble and he'll be circumspect and

1391
01:03:00,740 --> 01:02:57,810
will not push

1392
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:00,750
if its operational that is spelled out

1393
01:03:07,850 --> 01:03:04,310
for him in fact he's told exactly okay

1394
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:07,860
you can you will say this you'll talk

1395
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about that and you will do the you know

1396
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:13,950
it will be told it's it's like what we

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call passage material you know when you

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run double agents in order to make that

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:20,960
double agent convincing to the the

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foreign target is you know you give them

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some some real classified it to material

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what's happening here is running over

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here I have to stop it and then we'll

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pick up on more taqaddum Jean Walter and

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para cast calm just as we were ending

1509
01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:16,089
their what Walter is saying here is that

1510
01:08:22,540 --> 01:08:19,760
obviously if he is a contractor he fully

1511
01:08:26,050 --> 01:08:22,550
knows what he could do and you're also

1512
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:26,060
saying he may drop in a few tidbits some

1513
01:08:34,510 --> 01:08:29,210
classified stuff to intrigue us and make

1514
01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:34,520
it seem as if he's genuine of the asset

1515
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:37,220
which is what he would be if if he is

1516
01:08:40,930 --> 01:08:38,960
you know doing this contract or whatever

1517
01:08:44,110 --> 01:08:40,940
and it's for bona fides for the public

1518
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:44,120
it's so that the UFO community will say

1519
01:08:48,010 --> 01:08:45,830
see he's the real thing he's the real

1520
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:48,020
thing because we can trace this and the

1521
01:08:52,810 --> 01:08:50,510
other guy confirmed it well all of that

1522
01:08:55,750 --> 01:08:52,820
can be set up I know for a fact I've

1523
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,760
done this kind of thing okay when I say

1524
01:08:59,650 --> 01:08:56,960
I've done this kind of thing I'm not

1525
01:09:01,240 --> 01:08:59,660
talking about food the UFO community so

1526
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:01,250
when people out there to get all

1527
01:09:06,849 --> 01:09:04,010
bothered and excited what I'm saying is

1528
01:09:09,370 --> 01:09:06,859
as far as when you have a target and you

1529
01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:09,380
have an asset who's working for you and

1530
01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:11,270
you need to you know give them

1531
01:09:16,780 --> 01:09:14,150
information so that they are convincing

1532
01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:16,790
to your target yes you give them pieces

1533
01:09:24,099 --> 01:09:21,470
of real which you know are tainted with

1534
01:09:27,070 --> 01:09:24,109
pieces of not real in that particular

1535
01:09:29,710 --> 01:09:27,080
case but in this particular case I would

1536
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:29,720
say and I'm speculating here folks that

1537
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:32,810
if he's operational that yeah he would

1538
01:09:38,770 --> 01:09:35,839
be given pieces of real so that they can

1539
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:38,780
you know just the operation on a solid

1540
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,970
foundation with their their target which

1541
01:09:46,030 --> 01:09:42,880
in this case would be the public

1542
01:09:48,340 --> 01:09:46,040
specifically the the UFO public again

1543
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:48,350
I'm talking about operational mechanics

1544
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:49,850
there I'm not talking about the morality

1545
01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:52,400
of what their intention is I'm just

1546
01:09:56,890 --> 01:09:53,900
talking about the operational mechanics

1547
01:10:00,370 --> 01:09:56,900
and what I'm seeing it's right in with

1548
01:10:03,490 --> 01:10:00,380
operational mechanics but still we he

1549
01:10:05,710 --> 01:10:03,500
hasn't said a lot either and it also

1550
01:10:07,729 --> 01:10:05,720
then fits in with your other scenario

1551
01:10:11,390 --> 01:10:07,739
someone who

1552
01:10:13,970 --> 01:10:11,400
it doesn't want to be shut down who if

1553
01:10:17,890 --> 01:10:13,980
he was genuine if he's telling the truth

1554
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:17,900
and so he only has a handful of

1555
01:10:23,299 --> 01:10:20,880
information he can share with the public

1556
01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:23,309
that's been cleared and that's it and so

1557
01:10:27,799 --> 01:10:25,230
we're just not going to get much because

1558
01:10:29,989 --> 01:10:27,809
he's gonna want to steer very clear from

1559
01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:29,999
getting a visit and being told hey cut

1560
01:10:34,549 --> 01:10:32,780
it out oh yeah oh yeah absolutely

1561
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:34,559
absolutely he's going to want to be

1562
01:10:40,430 --> 01:10:38,130
careful with that and at some point you

1563
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:40,440
know if he really doesn't have new

1564
01:10:44,959 --> 01:10:43,380
tidbits or info to share at the point

1565
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:44,969
that he just becomes the guy they go to

1566
01:10:50,419 --> 01:10:47,340
for analysis or commentary you know on

1567
01:10:53,089 --> 01:10:50,429
stuff then that could be a clue there to

1568
01:10:57,049 --> 01:10:53,099
that what you're saying is he's the real

1569
01:10:58,549 --> 01:10:57,059
deal and he's told what he can tell and

1570
01:11:01,399 --> 01:10:58,559
that's it there's no more that he can

1571
01:11:03,169 --> 01:11:01,409
tell you know yeah that that's a

1572
01:11:05,959 --> 01:11:03,179
possibility that that would be an

1573
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:05,969
indicator you know of what you're saying

1574
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:12,210
but we have one other scenario similar

1575
01:11:18,620 --> 01:11:14,340
to this only that I can think of and

1576
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:18,630
that's Nick Pope he is in a similar

1577
01:11:24,589 --> 01:11:21,420
situation somewhat similar situation he

1578
01:11:29,419 --> 01:11:24,599
actually retired from his position but

1579
01:11:32,180 --> 01:11:29,429
he is out speaking and he is bound by

1580
01:11:34,459 --> 01:11:32,190
the UK secrecy law act and he's very

1581
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:34,469
clear when you when you reach that wall

1582
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:36,510
that I can talk about that because that

1583
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:39,449
would be breaching so and he but he's

1584
01:11:44,899 --> 01:11:41,510
been out there for many many years

1585
01:11:47,689 --> 01:11:44,909
sharing information and really I think

1586
01:11:52,489 --> 01:11:47,699
he's but he's helped a lot to bring

1587
01:11:56,180 --> 01:11:52,499
credibility to this whole field but has

1588
01:12:00,620 --> 01:11:56,190
been operating as a plan yeah what do

1589
01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:00,630
you think well I'll say about that just

1590
01:12:07,459 --> 01:12:05,460
keep my Ben he could have been off and

1591
01:12:09,770 --> 01:12:07,469
on and that's really where you got to

1592
01:12:12,379 --> 01:12:09,780
leave it because we'll see we including

1593
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:12,389
myself right now we're outside of these

1594
01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:16,110
agencies so we can't say for sure but we

1595
01:12:20,250 --> 01:12:18,070
just have to keep in mind that yet

1596
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,260
could have been their guy on the outside

1597
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,239
and every once in a while it's like okay

1598
01:12:27,149 --> 01:12:23,920
Nick get this out there we want the

1599
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:27,159
people to know this he could have spent

1600
01:12:32,129 --> 01:12:30,010
that doesn't make him insincere about

1601
01:12:34,169 --> 01:12:32,139
his interest in enthusiasm for the

1602
01:12:36,930 --> 01:12:34,179
subject that doesn't make him insincere

1603
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:36,940
in everything he says I'm just saying

1604
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:40,030
that you know it's possible that some of

1605
01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:44,710
what Pope has contributed could have

1606
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:56,399
hmm hmm so many possibilities let me ask

1607
01:13:01,169 --> 01:12:59,290
you here Walter obviously somebody with

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01:13:04,169 --> 01:13:01,179
an intelligence background could see the

1609
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:04,179
science is there anything that regular

1610
01:13:11,419 --> 01:13:08,800
people like Alejandro and me should look

1611
01:13:20,609 --> 01:13:11,429
for to say you know maybe this guy is

1612
01:13:22,169 --> 01:13:20,619
someone being employed to do this well

1613
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:22,179
that's kind of what I do in

1614
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:24,070
conversations like this the things I'm

1615
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:27,250
telling you guys is is you know number

1616
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:30,310
one look at their background okay

1617
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,030
look at for instance Elizondo was he a

1618
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:36,159
20 year guy 30 years I can't remember

1619
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:39,550
how long he was in in the business as a

1620
01:13:47,129 --> 01:13:42,310
staff guy he got a Remer their staff and

1621
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:47,139
there's contract it you know you just

1622
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:49,690
have to take into account that certain

1623
01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:52,480
agencies particularly the CIA will run

1624
01:13:59,879 --> 01:13:57,179
contractors operationally and I'm not

1625
01:14:01,649 --> 01:13:59,889
you know violating anything there I mean

1626
01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:01,659
everybody's known that for years he'll

1627
01:14:07,319 --> 01:14:05,590
they put it in movies so it's really

1628
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:07,329
just think about all the things I've

1629
01:14:12,270 --> 01:14:10,480
said and shared that's what you that's

1630
01:14:18,209 --> 01:14:12,280
what you look for that's what you

1631
01:14:20,220 --> 01:14:18,219
consider you know beyond that if

1632
01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:20,230
something were to come to mind of course

1633
01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:22,420
I'd share it with you but I think that's

1634
01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:24,340
what I've been trying to do that's why I

1635
01:14:29,250 --> 01:14:27,190
come on in and talk about these things a

1636
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:29,260
lot of people think that I'm down on ET

1637
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:30,880
I'm down on UFOs and

1638
01:14:36,570 --> 01:14:33,490
you know just a you know I'm out here to

1639
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:36,580
rain on everyone's parade and no that's

1640
01:14:41,820 --> 01:14:38,260
not what I'm doing what I am trying to

1641
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:41,830
do is say hey folks you know keep in

1642
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:43,810
mind from my perspective keep in mind

1643
01:14:48,750 --> 01:14:46,300
that this kind of situation could be

1644
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:48,760
this and that kind of situation could be

1645
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:52,480
that within a within an intelligence

1646
01:15:00,300 --> 01:14:56,650
you know operational perspective context

1647
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:00,310
so you know there you go

1648
01:15:05,940 --> 01:15:03,300
if that's the answer to your question I

1649
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:05,950
think that that makes a lot of sense say

1650
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:08,410
you know and you have done that this

1651
01:15:12,930 --> 01:15:10,750
entire show which is you know given us a

1652
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:12,940
lot to think about and you know I always

1653
01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:18,430
feel like it's important to be savvy and

1654
01:15:24,570 --> 01:15:20,470
be aware of these things and keep eyes

1655
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:24,580
out for red flags as we go through and

1656
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:26,170
discover all of this and it helps me and

1657
01:15:32,370 --> 01:15:29,830
you know my future conversations what

1658
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:32,380
sort of questions would you want to ask

1659
01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:36,610
Elizondo to let's say verify or order do

1660
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:39,460
your best to discover where he he fits

1661
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:43,390
in that kind of weather you know you

1662
01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:45,370
feel he he's his story's on the

1663
01:15:49,020 --> 01:15:47,020
up-and-up but not something that has

1664
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:49,030
been given to him to create you know to

1665
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:52,000
pitch to everybody before we have those

1666
01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:52,690
questions

1667
01:15:56,490 --> 01:15:54,430
let's have Walter suggestions in

1668
01:15:58,050 --> 01:15:56,500
response in a moment just so I remind

1669
01:16:00,750 --> 01:15:58,060
you we have a second radio show called

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after the power cast which would be a

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wrap up show special interviews extended

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Walter Bosley will respond to

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hi this is James Fox from chasing UFOs

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you're listening to the podcast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio so Walker

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Bosley do you have questions to suggest

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that Alejandro asked

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alwaz Ando unfortunately I don't think

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you'd get an answer not the kind of

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answer that you'd be hoping for when

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you're dealing with someone who's

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operational you're not going to get that

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definitive answer that's you know going

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to set your mind at ease or is going to

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convince you either way you know I tell

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people all the time I said it a minute

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01:21:42,140 --> 01:21:38,160
ago

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I have not worked for OSI since 1999 and

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01:21:46,370 --> 01:21:44,430
I guarantee you there's people out there

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that are just banging their table saying

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that liar he's still one of them him and

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Dodi you know have have tea every

1815
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:54,690
morning and conspire against us you know

1816
01:22:02,000 --> 01:21:56,490
I'm not going to be able to convince

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01:22:04,490 --> 01:22:02,010
anybody that I'm not okay because again

1818
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:04,500
even under what I'm saying myself I

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01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:06,810
could still be operational theoretically

1820
01:22:11,180 --> 01:22:09,840
you know so there's the problem at the

1821
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:11,190
interviewer the researcher is going to

1822
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,050
have with someone who they think might

1823
01:22:15,740 --> 01:22:15,120
be operational you know what here's what

1824
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:15,750
you do

1825
01:22:18,770 --> 01:22:17,970
I go back to the world of double agent

1826
01:22:21,530 --> 01:22:18,780
ray okay

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01:22:23,390 --> 01:22:21,540
now yeah we would recruit a guy and we'd

1828
01:22:26,660 --> 01:22:23,400
send him with the passage material and

1829
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:26,670
we'd target the GRU the KGB or the SVR

1830
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,530
or whatever there they call themselves

1831
01:22:33,140 --> 01:22:30,960
by that particular time of your

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01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:33,150
operation and we always had to factor

1833
01:22:38,450 --> 01:22:35,640
that okay they're not dumb they could

1834
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,460
see this as though there's that demo RSI

1835
01:22:44,990 --> 01:22:41,760
guys sending us a provocation okay we

1836
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:45,000
know this is a double agent but but they

1837
01:22:48,530 --> 01:22:46,770
also know how the game is played and

1838
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,540
they know but in that briefcase of

1839
01:22:53,810 --> 01:22:50,880
passage material there's going to be

1840
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:53,820
some real stuff they'll do is they'll

1841
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:55,650
say oh yes thank you mister so-and-so

1842
01:23:00,620 --> 01:22:58,410
who they are suspected as a double agent

1843
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:00,630
that they'll take what's in the brief

1844
01:23:04,189 --> 01:23:02,370
hand it to their analysts and their

1845
01:23:06,830 --> 01:23:04,199
scientists to say hey pick out the real

1846
01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:06,840
stuff here we're not buying this guy we

1847
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:08,520
know he's a provocation we know he's a

1848
01:23:13,340 --> 01:23:11,730
double agent from the Americans but we

1849
01:23:15,169 --> 01:23:13,350
know that you know the way the game is

1850
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,179
played there's going to be some nuggets

1851
01:23:20,060 --> 01:23:17,460
of truth and gold in what they're giving

1852
01:23:21,919 --> 01:23:20,070
us so that's the best thing you could do

1853
01:23:24,410 --> 01:23:21,929
as a researcher and interviewer is

1854
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,420
politely listen to the info they're

1855
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:26,400
giving you take their so-called

1856
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:29,250
briefcase of material and then analyze

1857
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:33,360
what they say and pursue that while not

1858
01:23:39,459 --> 01:23:36,719
you know necessarily expecting to get

1859
01:23:42,140 --> 01:23:39,469
your definitive answer on the guy okay

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:42,150
that's going to be honestly the best

1861
01:23:47,149 --> 01:23:44,489
you're going to be able to do because

1862
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:47,159
there there is no question that you

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could ask that's going to make them say

1864
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:51,929
oh you got me my fake I'm undercover

1865
01:23:56,899 --> 01:23:54,000
operative here does that just ain't

1866
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:56,909
gonna happen so you know take what they

1867
01:24:01,550 --> 01:23:59,520
say see if there's any nuggets follow up

1868
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:01,560
on it you know do the due diligence on

1869
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:02,850
the things they're saying oh there's

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01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:04,560
this tech or there was that sighting I

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:07,400
do the due diligence and you might find

1872
01:24:11,540 --> 01:24:09,449
something real in there but that's the

1873
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:11,550
best you're going to be able to do okay

1874
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:13,409
my follow-up to that would be what if

1875
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:15,449
you had the chance to talk to him let's

1876
01:24:22,430 --> 01:24:17,330
say he joined us he calls in right now

1877
01:24:25,729 --> 01:24:22,440
what would you ask him publicly nothing

1878
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:25,739
I would be more satisfied with a private

1879
01:24:31,129 --> 01:24:28,130
one-on-one conversation but that said

1880
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,139
he's not going to tell me anything you

1881
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:33,360
know particularly if he's operational

1882
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:36,090
and he's good you know we're gonna have

1883
01:24:40,490 --> 01:24:38,370
a nice Pleasant conversation and about

1884
01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:40,500
the most we get out of it is if we ever

1885
01:24:45,530 --> 01:24:43,320
cross paths or if we ever did training

1886
01:24:47,689 --> 01:24:45,540
in the same places and you know just

1887
01:24:49,490 --> 01:24:47,699
like you know the old joke and the in

1888
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:49,500
the movie Ronan you know talk about the

1889
01:24:53,930 --> 01:24:51,210
color of the boathouse at the farm or

1890
01:24:56,270 --> 01:24:53,940
whatever you know that kind of thing and

1891
01:24:58,939 --> 01:24:56,280
maybe exchange yeah I knew that guy I

1892
01:25:02,870 --> 01:24:58,949
was in Afghanistan with him or this that

1893
01:25:06,110 --> 01:25:02,880
or the other but because I've been in

1894
01:25:08,330 --> 01:25:06,120
that world honestly there any question

1895
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:08,340
that you know hey is this I wouldn't I

1896
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:10,530
know that I would not get an answer from

1897
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:11,490
him

1898
01:25:16,220 --> 01:25:12,960
that would be satisfying that would

1899
01:25:18,230 --> 01:25:16,230
satisfy others so that's where that's at

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01:25:20,980 --> 01:25:18,240
and I know that sounds murky and vague

1901
01:25:25,220 --> 01:25:20,990
but welcome to the world of spooks

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01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:25,230
gotcha well I guess I can get that I

1903
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:28,110
guess would just have to be I guess it's

1904
01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:29,940
all what we can gain from it because I

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01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:33,060
think the net change that Delta's let's

1906
01:25:40,670 --> 01:25:36,510
say from prior to the Times article to

1907
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:40,680
now is that my I would argue and I think

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01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:46,320
that that the media is taking this topic

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01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:49,530
it's added a lot of credibility to the

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01:25:54,230 --> 01:25:51,420
topic for them and and they're never

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01:25:57,470 --> 01:25:54,240
going to be able to discuss this topic

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01:26:00,380 --> 01:25:57,480
without referring to this situation that

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the DoD even recently investigated and

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and the chief of the department believes

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:07,290
that it's a serious situation so it's

1916
01:26:13,550 --> 01:26:09,930
changed the conversation so if that's

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01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:13,560
the end goal it has changed the

1918
01:26:17,630 --> 01:26:14,910
conversation for a while because

1919
01:26:19,940 --> 01:26:17,640
remember Project Blue Book was the Air

1920
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:19,950
Force's official program and after a

1921
01:26:24,830 --> 01:26:22,530
while they lost interest in that too but

1922
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:24,840
you're right for awhile for right now

1923
01:26:30,170 --> 01:26:27,600
for a while they have something to refer

1924
01:26:32,510 --> 01:26:30,180
to that is recent you know Blue Book is

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01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:32,520
ancient here's something that's recent

1926
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:37,370
and fresh and new but I'm a little

1927
01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:40,770
cynical when it comes to you know the

1928
01:26:47,900 --> 01:26:44,580
the big media because you know they

1929
01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:47,910
always end up at some point just wanting

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01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:50,040
to make guys like you and me and gene

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01:26:53,690 --> 01:26:51,450
and everybody listening out to be a

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01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:53,700
bunch of crazies you know no matter what

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01:26:58,730 --> 01:26:55,920
specific camps we're in on the issue

1934
01:27:01,850 --> 01:26:58,740
they just lump us all together is isn't

1935
01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:01,860
this nutty you know and and I think it's

1936
01:27:06,530 --> 01:27:03,780
not going to be long until they're back

1937
01:27:10,370 --> 01:27:06,540
to the same old same old unless

1938
01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:10,380
something big is released I would argue

1939
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:12,030
though that's not always the case it

1940
01:27:16,340 --> 01:27:14,490
depends on how you approach them because

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01:27:19,190 --> 01:27:16,350
I feel like the majority of the times

1942
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:19,200
I've participated in with mainstream

1943
01:27:23,890 --> 01:27:20,930
media it's been positive

1944
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:23,900
someone like Leslie Kane

1945
01:27:32,110 --> 01:27:29,300
and reporters right well no I mean add

1946
01:27:34,180 --> 01:27:32,120
media as a whole and not definitely not

1947
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:34,190
individual reporters because it's not

1948
01:27:39,820 --> 01:27:36,170
there are a few reporters that I talk to

1949
01:27:42,940 --> 01:27:39,830
you more often than others but I think

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01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:42,950
it's a good point actually that I'll

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01:27:49,930 --> 01:27:47,090
concede is you know this thing has been

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01:27:52,510 --> 01:27:49,940
in the public consciousness for so many

1953
01:27:55,510 --> 01:27:52,520
decades now that actually there probably

1954
01:27:58,150 --> 01:27:55,520
are a lot more reporters in the big

1955
01:28:00,970 --> 01:27:58,160
media mainstream media now who think

1956
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:00,980
like us than there used to be so that

1957
01:28:05,020 --> 01:28:02,930
doesn't surprise me if you're having a

1958
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:05,030
good experience with these give these

1959
01:28:10,660 --> 01:28:07,370
guys that might be the reason is because

1960
01:28:13,330 --> 01:28:10,670
there's more there's a bigger number now

1961
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:13,340
of them who think like us than there

1962
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:15,760
used to be so that's promising

1963
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:19,040
but right now we are so overwhelmed with

1964
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:21,110
all this other nonsense going on that

1965
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:23,090
you wonder when there's gonna be another

1966
01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:26,570
story you know is it gonna be two months

1967
01:28:34,510 --> 01:28:31,390
from now or is it going to just fade

1968
01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:34,520
that's a good question that's where the

1969
01:28:45,970 --> 01:28:44,140
so I mean there at least of what we've

1970
01:28:51,370 --> 01:28:45,980
been told there's three videos we've got

1971
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:51,380
a third video to come and yeah I think

1972
01:28:58,980 --> 01:28:56,170
there will see more but it still just

1973
01:29:01,050 --> 01:28:58,990
reframes the whole thing which is a

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01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:01,060
positive

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01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:05,090
but yeah interesting stuff to think

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01:29:13,450 --> 01:29:09,050
about there what are your thoughts Jean

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01:29:15,580 --> 01:29:13,460
my thing we all all three of us all the

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01:29:18,010 --> 01:29:15,590
listeners again I go back to no matter

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01:29:27,130 --> 01:29:18,020
what personal perspective were coming

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from we all want to know you know you

1981
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:29,270
know we want to know that truth we and

1982
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:31,370
we just want to quit fooling around with

1983
01:29:36,250 --> 01:29:32,090
this and

1984
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:36,260
get to it you know because I I totally

1985
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:38,960
accept I think I believe to use the B

1986
01:29:43,420 --> 01:29:41,600
word that et is out there and comes here

1987
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:43,430
I have no problem with that I'm not one

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01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:44,960
of those that just because I think it's

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01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:47,120
90% human technology people are seeing

1990
01:29:51,550 --> 01:29:49,490
that you know that it's that the ETS

1991
01:29:53,050 --> 01:29:51,560
don't come here you know and you're

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01:29:54,190 --> 01:29:53,060
somewhere else on the perspective and

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01:29:56,350 --> 01:29:54,200
gene is somewhere else on the

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01:30:00,010 --> 01:29:56,360
perspective and you know we're on the

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01:30:04,450 --> 01:30:00,020
same side you know at the bottom line

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the end of the day and all that so you

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know we're kind of anxious for this to

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come about and they know that if they

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are trickling stuff out and you know I

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think that the thing is the balls in

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their court and they know it you know we

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know we're going to do this break and

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come back with more great discussion

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with Walter Bosley Jean Steinberg

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Alejandro Rojas Chris O'Brien's off to

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this is Leslie Kane and I'm with the

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Coalition for freedom of information and

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you are listening to the podcast well if

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they're doing gradual disclosure they

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better speed things up you know I'm not

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as young as I used to be and I've really

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lived longer than a lot of my relatives

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except for my father

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and a couple of grandfathers so at some

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point I it's not gonna happen for me I'm

2122
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glad you brought that up because and

2123
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this is just my personal position on

2124
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that is that you know my attitude is

2125
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well gene when you die then you'll no

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see

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and so therefore let's say Wow let's say

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if that's true when you die you know the

2129
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answer to these mysteries what does that

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tell us about what the purpose of our

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lives are if we're going to find out the

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answer to the mysteries anyway

2133
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hypothetically then what are we supposed

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to be focusing on and I say that as a

2135
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guy who's totally obsessed with and in

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love with answering the mysteries so I

2137
01:35:59,190 --> 01:35:56,650
violate my own hypothetical all the time

2138
01:36:01,410 --> 01:35:59,200
I think most of us do but it kind of

2139
01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:01,420
helped give perspective it's like okay

2140
01:36:07,770 --> 01:36:05,830
is this that important you know and we

2141
01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:07,780
can objectively say oh well you know yes

2142
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:09,760
of course there's other things you know

2143
01:36:13,860 --> 01:36:12,010
in the in life that are more important

2144
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:13,870
maybe we should focus on blah blah blah

2145
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:15,760
that we pause and we all kind of smile

2146
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:18,130
we go yes it's that important yeah you

2147
01:36:23,910 --> 01:36:21,489
know me too I mean if things go the way

2148
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,920
they've been going that's 3 Alejandro

2149
01:36:29,070 --> 01:36:25,360
might be the only one who's around when

2150
01:36:30,959 --> 01:36:29,080
you know the big disclosure comes yeah I

2151
01:36:34,020 --> 01:36:30,969
don't hold my breath for it and I'm not

2152
01:36:35,729 --> 01:36:34,030
that much younger than well probably

2153
01:36:37,229 --> 01:36:35,739
well then you guys I feel like I'm an

2154
01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:37,239
old guy I got a lot of great hair but

2155
01:36:41,550 --> 01:36:40,239
right the other question is this and I

2156
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:41,560
think I always think at another

2157
01:36:46,830 --> 01:36:43,570
motivation you brought up Richard Doty

2158
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:46,840
another motivation for the intelligence

2159
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:50,170
world to not want to have more

2160
01:36:56,430 --> 01:36:52,690
information out there about this topic

2161
01:36:59,850 --> 01:36:56,440
in particular is that it's kind of a

2162
01:37:02,520 --> 01:36:59,860
tool in their toolbox they can you know

2163
01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:02,530
perhaps use

2164
01:37:09,390 --> 01:37:05,740
this the whole idea of UFOs and aliens

2165
01:37:11,490 --> 01:37:09,400
as a cover or use it in encounter

2166
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:11,500
intelligence probably for things that

2167
01:37:18,090 --> 01:37:13,510
aren't even related to this topic or

2168
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,100
maybe like you said black project I'm

2169
01:37:23,940 --> 01:37:20,560
glad you brought that up because we

2170
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:23,950
hadn't hit on that yet now here's a

2171
01:37:31,250 --> 01:37:27,040
hypothetical take Elizondo for example

2172
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:31,260
okay he's let's say he's you know

2173
01:37:35,820 --> 01:37:34,330
operational okay he's been briefed from

2174
01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:35,830
what he's supposed to do he's given the

2175
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:39,040
info he's supposed to give but yes it's

2176
01:37:42,420 --> 01:37:39,730
possible

2177
01:37:44,190 --> 01:37:42,430
what if he's operational and he thinks

2178
01:37:46,890 --> 01:37:44,200
the operation is one thing when actually

2179
01:37:50,150 --> 01:37:46,900
it's another now we're getting into that

2180
01:37:53,610 --> 01:37:50,160
territory we're speaking for myself as

2181
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:53,620
Intel professional that's where it

2182
01:37:59,190 --> 01:37:56,320
begins to bother me you know and if I

2183
01:38:03,120 --> 01:37:59,200
thought at anytime hey wait a minute

2184
01:38:04,770 --> 01:38:03,130
they've got me doing this operation

2185
01:38:06,330 --> 01:38:04,780
where they're telling me that oh yeah

2186
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:06,340
we're going to disclose this but

2187
01:38:10,590 --> 01:38:08,890
actually it's just it's a total they're

2188
01:38:13,110 --> 01:38:10,600
tweaking the perception they're using

2189
01:38:17,220 --> 01:38:13,120
this just like you said then that gets

2190
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:17,230
to be a problem there and in my opinion

2191
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:19,510
that would be you know a potentially

2192
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:21,400
nefarious thing because that's possible

2193
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:26,170
to monsier guys like an Elizondo who

2194
01:38:31,290 --> 01:38:29,050
really think that what they're doing is

2195
01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:31,300
what the operation is and that is

2196
01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:34,240
possible that it's not it could be that

2197
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:36,340
they're using their own operatives was

2198
01:38:40,380 --> 01:38:38,890
what's my point and I'm not going to go

2199
01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:40,390
too far into it but there was something

2200
01:38:45,180 --> 01:38:42,460
I was involved in I remember the day I

2201
01:38:48,510 --> 01:38:45,190
was sitting at my desk and it crossed my

2202
01:38:52,410 --> 01:38:48,520
mind hey wait a minute this is a thing

2203
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:52,420
that I think is one thing could be this

2204
01:38:58,230 --> 01:38:55,810
other thing and if that's the case that

2205
01:39:01,800 --> 01:38:58,240
changes my perspective and it was at

2206
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:01,810
that point that I inside myself as a

2207
01:39:08,460 --> 01:39:05,050
person I began to lose a bit of the

2208
01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:08,470
passion for that thing I was doing just

2209
01:39:13,260 --> 01:39:10,750
on the suspicion that wait a minute if

2210
01:39:15,180 --> 01:39:13,270
this is not what I think it is but it's

2211
01:39:15,989 --> 01:39:15,190
this other thing over here I'm not

2212
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:15,999
interested in it

2213
01:39:20,519 --> 01:39:18,159
I don't want to be any part of it and I

2214
01:39:23,579 --> 01:39:20,529
shortly after that changed my career

2215
01:39:27,239 --> 01:39:23,589
path I went and did something else Wow I

2216
01:39:30,449 --> 01:39:27,249
can say that that is a possibility that

2217
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:30,459
even these operative guys could be being

2218
01:39:35,879 --> 01:39:33,129
used yes and could that be another

2219
01:39:37,889 --> 01:39:35,889
motivation to continue secrecy because

2220
01:39:39,749 --> 01:39:37,899
the less we understand or know about

2221
01:39:43,409 --> 01:39:39,759
what's really going on or what they've

2222
01:39:47,489 --> 01:39:43,419
really done in with UFOs or otherwise

2223
01:39:49,349 --> 01:39:47,499
then the more room they have to use you

2224
01:39:53,609 --> 01:39:49,359
know that whole topic as in their

2225
01:39:56,429 --> 01:39:53,619
toolbox oh sure yeah if it works they're

2226
01:40:00,359 --> 01:39:56,439
going to keep they're gonna hold on to

2227
01:40:01,529 --> 01:40:00,369
what they can hold on to and if it works

2228
01:40:04,349 --> 01:40:01,539
you know they're going to keep using it

2229
01:40:06,839 --> 01:40:04,359
whatever the purpose is and and that's

2230
01:40:08,819 --> 01:40:06,849
the other that's another conversation we

2231
01:40:10,679 --> 01:40:08,829
go back to is that the Wernher von Braun

2232
01:40:12,299 --> 01:40:10,689
thing where you know first it was this

2233
01:40:14,009 --> 01:40:12,309
then it was terrorists then it was that

2234
01:40:18,559 --> 01:40:14,019
and then it's going to be aliens you

2235
01:40:21,449 --> 01:40:18,569
know is it that faked alien threat is it

2236
01:40:23,639 --> 01:40:21,459
just merely to keep the industrial

2237
01:40:25,619 --> 01:40:23,649
complex going is it meant you know for

2238
01:40:28,199 --> 01:40:25,629
whatever reason for or is it to cover a

2239
01:40:30,809 --> 01:40:28,209
secret space program for whatever reason

2240
01:40:32,699 --> 01:40:30,819
you know yeah as long as it works you're

2241
01:40:33,809 --> 01:40:32,709
they will keep it in their toolbox and

2242
01:40:35,849 --> 01:40:33,819
they will keep a lid on it

2243
01:40:39,089 --> 01:40:35,859
and they will play perception management

2244
01:40:42,209 --> 01:40:39,099
games and to your point earlier if 90%

2245
01:40:45,809 --> 01:40:42,219
of what's being misidentified as is

2246
01:40:48,839 --> 01:40:45,819
human some cases you know top-secret

2247
01:40:52,289 --> 01:40:48,849
because as they do get seen occasionally

2248
01:40:54,899 --> 01:40:52,299
it kind of is to their advantage that

2249
01:40:57,989 --> 01:40:54,909
you know a report on something someone

2250
01:41:01,349 --> 01:40:57,999
sees that is actually a top-secret a

2251
01:41:03,899 --> 01:41:01,359
black project goes into a UFO goes into

2252
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,909
MUFON files and nobody cares and it's

2253
01:41:07,379 --> 01:41:05,199
not taken seriously

2254
01:41:09,449 --> 01:41:07,389
whereas if people start taking those

2255
01:41:11,279 --> 01:41:09,459
seriously they might uncover some of

2256
01:41:14,549 --> 01:41:11,289
these things and learn some more about

2257
01:41:18,839 --> 01:41:14,559
their projects yeah and that's where for

2258
01:41:20,429 --> 01:41:18,849
years I've said that they would use that

2259
01:41:21,869 --> 01:41:20,439
they were more than happy to let people

2260
01:41:23,129 --> 01:41:21,879
think that advanced technology is a

2261
01:41:25,319 --> 01:41:23,139
craft from another world

2262
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:25,329
and what I meant by that was not out

2263
01:41:30,030 --> 01:41:27,489
there you know hands

2264
01:41:32,459 --> 01:41:30,040
engineering lies in the UFO field what

2265
01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:32,469
I'm saying is if people happen to see

2266
01:41:38,190 --> 01:41:35,200
that secret platform that secret craft

2267
01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:38,200
and they say oh it's from Mars or Zeta

2268
01:41:43,170 --> 01:41:40,510
Reticuli or whatever just allowing that

2269
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:43,180
misperception and n maybe fueling that

2270
01:41:51,570 --> 01:41:48,850
fire yeah sure exactly why not and

2271
01:41:53,970 --> 01:41:51,580
you're right it does it does serve the

2272
01:41:55,860 --> 01:41:53,980
purpose to keep something classified if

2273
01:42:00,090 --> 01:41:55,870
people just blow it off as a story they

2274
01:42:04,140 --> 01:42:00,100
don't believe or it gets married in the

2275
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:04,150
database of an organization great yeah

2276
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:06,010
and especially if they're not taken

2277
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,290
seriously because I mean if this thing

2278
01:42:13,020 --> 01:42:09,760
went the way that we would all like to

2279
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,030
see it go I think many of us then there

2280
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:16,480
would be you know more research sources

2281
01:42:27,330 --> 01:42:23,280
put towards trying to capture imagery or

2282
01:42:29,610 --> 01:42:27,340
data about these things also more

2283
01:42:35,850 --> 01:42:29,620
research going into what they are and

2284
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:35,860
and then if for instance one of their

2285
01:42:42,959 --> 01:42:38,290
craft you know something was caught like

2286
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:42,969
let's say that that the SR 72 which

2287
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:44,770
people have been talking about this week

2288
01:42:50,209 --> 01:42:47,770
and then we you would be able to you

2289
01:42:52,410 --> 01:42:50,219
know if we've got all these cameras and

2290
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:52,420
technology kind of like some people are

2291
01:42:56,970 --> 01:42:55,330
working on including one of the

2292
01:43:00,270 --> 01:42:56,980
gentlemen that's part of to the Stars

2293
01:43:02,370 --> 01:43:00,280
what Chris forget his last name he's

2294
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:02,380
working with a UFO dad aware that that's

2295
01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:03,730
what they want to do capture these

2296
01:43:08,850 --> 01:43:06,310
things in there lilia Deitz and stuff

2297
01:43:11,490 --> 01:43:08,860
and then they would have a lot of

2298
01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:11,500
information and it's just kind of an

2299
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:12,670
interesting thought because if our

2300
01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:15,040
technology gets you know well were you

2301
01:43:19,470 --> 01:43:17,620
able to observe stuff like that then we

2302
01:43:22,350 --> 01:43:19,480
may be able to if we caught one of these

2303
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:22,360
things flying across the sky have quite

2304
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:24,370
a bit of information about these

2305
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:28,410
top-secret craft you know whatever game

2306
01:43:34,440 --> 01:43:32,590
they are playing I think what it is is

2307
01:43:36,030 --> 01:43:34,450
they realize they're in a position where

2308
01:43:39,180 --> 01:43:36,040
they need to change that game up because

2309
01:43:40,089 --> 01:43:39,190
we're we're at a point now when you talk

2310
01:43:42,339 --> 01:43:40,099
about camera

2311
01:43:44,530 --> 01:43:42,349
and in technological eyes out there

2312
01:43:47,620 --> 01:43:44,540
we're at the point now where the common

2313
01:43:50,859 --> 01:43:47,630
person can buy things and utilize things

2314
01:43:53,709 --> 01:43:50,869
with our common technologies that

2315
01:43:56,169 --> 01:43:53,719
there's a lot more technological eyes

2316
01:43:58,510 --> 01:43:56,179
out there that are not in the hands of

2317
01:44:01,439 --> 01:43:58,520
you know the military or the government

2318
01:44:04,540 --> 01:44:01,449
or the Intel agencies and pretty soon

2319
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:04,550
and you gotta you gotta scrape away all

2320
01:44:09,220 --> 01:44:06,770
the crap you see on YouTube that could

2321
01:44:12,209 --> 01:44:09,230
be faked this that and the other but

2322
01:44:15,339 --> 01:44:12,219
what I'm saying is that said pretty soon

2323
01:44:17,890 --> 01:44:15,349
people or folks are going to be

2324
01:44:20,129 --> 01:44:17,900
capturing whatever it is up there and

2325
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:20,139
they're going to be capturing it very

2326
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:23,810
clearly you know whoever knows what it

2327
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:26,690
is that's up there be it our own or

2328
01:44:31,839 --> 01:44:29,360
someone else's they've got their

2329
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,849
scrambling to figure out ok how are we

2330
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:33,440
going to keep our handle on this because

2331
01:44:36,819 --> 01:44:34,639
pretty soon we're not going to be able

2332
01:44:38,770 --> 01:44:36,829
to keep it hidden because some guy you

2333
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:38,780
know Alejandro or Jean is going to be

2334
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:40,310
able to stand out in his backyard with

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this latest mondo digital telescope and

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Boop's you know they're gonna get in

2337
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:47,630
vivid detail what we know is up there

2338
01:44:52,089 --> 01:44:49,730
and have been hiding from people so that

2339
01:44:54,490 --> 01:44:52,099
that could be that what you said about

2340
01:44:56,649 --> 01:44:54,500
the eyes you know think about that that

2341
01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:56,659
could be that you know what they're

2342
01:45:00,609 --> 01:44:58,690
worried about is that pretty soon we

2343
01:45:02,020 --> 01:45:00,619
they're not going to be able to hide it

2344
01:45:04,450 --> 01:45:02,030
from us we're going to be able to see it

2345
01:45:06,430 --> 01:45:04,460
we have a right now most of us look down

2346
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,440
at our smartphones while crossing the

2347
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:08,480
street we don't think of looking up as

2348
01:45:13,930 --> 01:45:11,810
much and I know of course it's a trick

2349
01:45:16,750 --> 01:45:13,940
it's a plot by Apple we've got more to

2350
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come with Walter Jean and Alejandro

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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01:47:53,220 --> 01:47:48,920
welcome back to the para cast the gold

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01:47:57,220 --> 01:47:53,230
standard of paranormal radio and now

2403
01:48:00,689 --> 01:47:57,230
here's Jane Steinberg

2404
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:04,120
so as we pursue this here the real

2405
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:07,010
secret here is that Steve Jobs was

2406
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:10,130
working as a contractor okay

2407
01:48:17,229 --> 01:48:13,850
and therefore he worked with Apple to

2408
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:17,239
invent the iPhone to make smartphones

2409
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:19,810
warm and fuzzy to the masses and

2410
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:22,370
encourage people to start looking down I

2411
01:48:27,610 --> 01:48:25,489
mean you hard to go anywhere you know

2412
01:48:30,820 --> 01:48:27,620
you see like people crossing the street

2413
01:48:35,020 --> 01:48:30,830
where people still cross streets and you

2414
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:35,030
see five people in a row glancing at

2415
01:48:40,270 --> 01:48:38,810
their smartphones looking down so et

2416
01:48:44,110 --> 01:48:40,280
could be flying overhead they wouldn't

2417
01:48:46,380 --> 01:48:44,120
notice it that's right projects like

2418
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:46,390
this UFO data happened then you would be

2419
01:48:50,860 --> 01:48:49,130
looking up by looking down because you'd

2420
01:48:53,740 --> 01:48:50,870
be watching the screen on your iPhone

2421
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:53,750
and as the cameras are pointing up and

2422
01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:57,170
so yeah but you get these projects all

2423
01:49:02,950 --> 01:48:59,600
the time and that's one of them

2424
01:49:05,649 --> 01:49:02,960
okay and we did a show about them I

2425
01:49:08,669 --> 01:49:05,659
don't know a couple of years back mm-hmm

2426
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:08,679
and the thing is just really kind of

2427
01:49:17,590 --> 01:49:13,610
asleep yeah nothing's happened for I

2428
01:49:20,110 --> 01:49:17,600
don't know a couple of years I even

2429
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:20,120
donated and I'm not in great shakes

2430
01:49:24,610 --> 01:49:22,250
financially but I donated a small amount

2431
01:49:26,620 --> 01:49:24,620
to them because I thought well okay this

2432
01:49:30,580 --> 01:49:26,630
is cool it looks like they got something

2433
01:49:32,830 --> 01:49:30,590
really useful going here and we had mark

2434
01:49:38,290 --> 01:49:32,840
Roediger and Leslie cane on the show

2435
01:49:40,030 --> 01:49:38,300
November 15th 2015 Chris got in touch

2436
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:40,040
with them and offered to try to help

2437
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:41,810
because he's working on his own project

2438
01:49:48,419 --> 01:49:44,890
the San Luis Valley camera project and

2439
01:49:51,070 --> 01:49:48,429
Chris said maybe he had one or two

2440
01:49:53,010 --> 01:49:51,080
exchanges and then no one ever responded

2441
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:53,020
to him anymore

2442
01:49:59,729 --> 01:49:56,449
I hey don't know that they even had any

2443
01:50:03,160 --> 01:49:59,739
contact with Bigelow did they

2444
01:50:04,630 --> 01:50:03,170
specifically I use him as a verb you get

2445
01:50:08,490 --> 01:50:04,640
big a load in the sense that somebody

2446
01:50:10,330 --> 01:50:08,500
came along and kind of clamped down on

2447
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:10,340
whatever it was they

2448
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:14,090
we're doing society ratchet over there a

2449
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,880
man and do this needs and and then what

2450
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:18,560
happens is he just locks it down and

2451
01:50:22,959 --> 01:50:20,090
nobody finds out what goes on there

2452
01:50:25,180 --> 01:50:22,969
anymore well I signed up for project

2453
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:25,190
updates they've got this form at the

2454
01:50:30,370 --> 01:50:28,730
site which is still there and if you put

2455
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:30,380
your name on there supposedly you'll get

2456
01:50:37,209 --> 01:50:34,130
emails with project updates but the last

2457
01:50:41,979 --> 01:50:37,219
one is August 5th or last year project

2458
01:50:44,109 --> 01:50:41,989
update number five fifth August 2017 and

2459
01:50:45,879 --> 01:50:44,119
it's the first of the calendar year

2460
01:50:49,570 --> 01:50:45,889
which meant there were no previous

2461
01:50:53,859 --> 01:50:49,580
updates for 2017 the previous update was

2462
01:50:58,839 --> 01:50:53,869
October 6 2016 so just one update and

2463
01:51:04,240 --> 01:50:58,849
towards the latter half of 2017 and

2464
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:04,250
that's it now I've heard that they're

2465
01:51:10,450 --> 01:51:08,000
just it's stalled but there are other

2466
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:10,460
couple projects out there I know Mark

2467
01:51:14,109 --> 01:51:12,710
Dantonio and Doug Trumbull are still

2468
01:51:16,629 --> 01:51:14,119
working on theirs and they're making

2469
01:51:19,390 --> 01:51:16,639
some headway they seem to be actually

2470
01:51:20,770 --> 01:51:19,400
getting the farthest but again yeah

2471
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:20,780
they've been working on their project

2472
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:22,610
for quite some time so I think people

2473
01:51:28,300 --> 01:51:24,530
are slowly getting there it's just you

2474
01:51:30,700 --> 01:51:28,310
know kind of a resource issue I think

2475
01:51:33,850 --> 01:51:30,710
we'll have it things get smaller in the

2476
01:51:35,470 --> 01:51:33,860
time grow it this stuff costs money you

2477
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:35,480
know you're right on the resources issue

2478
01:51:45,580 --> 01:51:38,770
it's you know there are expenses that

2479
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:45,590
are involved there was another project

2480
01:51:53,470 --> 01:51:50,719
we had someone named Dave Cote who was

2481
01:51:56,109 --> 01:51:53,480
responsible in something called CubeSat

2482
01:51:59,500 --> 01:51:56,119
4 which was going to be a low earth

2483
01:52:01,990 --> 01:51:59,510
satellite and I've never heard that

2484
01:52:04,060 --> 01:52:02,000
thorne thing ever got launched it looked

2485
01:52:08,140 --> 01:52:04,070
like as of the last I've heard we have

2486
01:52:10,689 --> 01:52:08,150
enough for a launch already and now it's

2487
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:10,699
scheduled for the summer of 2018 so it

2488
01:52:16,450 --> 01:52:13,130
was too late a year or so all right so

2489
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:16,460
maybe it will happen but this will be as

2490
01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:20,810
they say a low earth satellite at least

2491
01:52:24,410 --> 01:52:21,830
they're getting something up there

2492
01:52:26,270 --> 01:52:24,420
hopefully well as I said there's no

2493
01:52:29,780 --> 01:52:26,280
explanation as to why it's late because

2494
01:52:32,209 --> 01:52:29,790
we had him on the para cast and I have

2495
01:52:37,060 --> 01:52:32,219
to look up the date right here March of

2496
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:37,070
2016 and he said they'd scheduled it for

2497
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:41,489
2017 those things never get done on time

2498
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,810
oh well yeah I don't understand the

2499
01:52:52,340 --> 01:52:47,760
holdup on that one either because they

2500
01:52:54,140 --> 01:52:52,350
did create a you know crowdfunding and

2501
01:52:56,510 --> 01:52:54,150
they got their funding and now they're

2502
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:56,520
say they need more funding and so which

2503
01:53:03,020 --> 01:52:59,360
is that's how that's supposed to work so

2504
01:53:05,959 --> 01:53:03,030
yeah I haven't heard you know it's kind

2505
01:53:07,700 --> 01:53:05,969
of like movies you know how they'll say

2506
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:07,710
well here's the budget for the film this

2507
01:53:11,419 --> 01:53:09,690
is how much we need and then there's

2508
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:11,429
always those guys I forget what do they

2509
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:13,650
call them completion bonds or completion

2510
01:53:17,870 --> 01:53:16,080
financers where you know when you run

2511
01:53:20,810 --> 01:53:17,880
out of the money unless I'm

2512
01:53:22,580 --> 01:53:20,820
misunderstanding what this is but I know

2513
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:22,590
for a fact in films you know you run out

2514
01:53:26,780 --> 01:53:24,210
of the money so then you need to go get

2515
01:53:29,630 --> 01:53:26,790
more money you know you're talking about

2516
01:53:32,900 --> 01:53:29,640
a technological project in this case I

2517
01:53:35,060 --> 01:53:32,910
mean does that happen with with you know

2518
01:53:36,500 --> 01:53:35,070
technology like this is you know the

2519
01:53:39,169 --> 01:53:36,510
money runs out you need to go get more

2520
01:53:41,180 --> 01:53:39,179
well it sounds like military projects

2521
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:41,190
you're going to build an airplane and

2522
01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:44,850
it's a billion dollars say and then it

2523
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:47,280
ends up costing five but according to

2524
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:49,890
the last update we've got from CubeSat

2525
01:53:57,500 --> 01:53:55,290
we have enough for a launch already 16

2526
01:53:59,479 --> 01:53:57,510
or is it sixteen thousand six hundred

2527
01:54:03,160 --> 01:53:59,489
twenty-five dollars has been paid to

2528
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:03,170
enter orbital systems for the launch

2529
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:07,890
okay so it's supposedly real and they've

2530
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:10,290
also purchased components for about

2531
01:54:20,900 --> 01:54:18,570
fourteen thousand dollars pardon do they

2532
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:20,910
have their own launch facility could it

2533
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:24,330
be that they're waiting for their time

2534
01:54:30,020 --> 01:54:28,010
on a pad no they're basically

2535
01:54:34,430 --> 01:54:30,030
contracting with a third party company

2536
01:54:37,069 --> 01:54:34,440
to launch it for them okay okay gotcha

2537
01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:37,079
it says here that they

2538
01:54:44,209 --> 01:54:41,510
the money for assembling the CubeSat

2539
01:54:45,649 --> 01:54:44,219
they've paid for the launch and it's

2540
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:45,659
obviously pretty cheap you can launch

2541
01:54:49,879 --> 01:54:47,730
something for sixteen thousand six

2542
01:54:54,799 --> 01:54:49,889
hundred twenty-five dollars it's really

2543
01:54:58,069 --> 01:54:54,809
low end they need another tank another

2544
01:55:00,260 --> 01:54:58,079
possibility is that the third party you

2545
01:55:02,270 --> 01:55:00,270
know they might have some fluctuation in

2546
01:55:04,580 --> 01:55:02,280
their payload scheduled that could be a

2547
01:55:08,419 --> 01:55:04,590
- there could be a delay because you

2548
01:55:11,750 --> 01:55:08,429
know other priority payload customers

2549
01:55:14,689 --> 01:55:11,760
you know have had a need and they've had

2550
01:55:17,390 --> 01:55:14,699
to be bumped well I would hope they

2551
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:17,400
would have explained that you see yeah

2552
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:19,110
that would help they need another ten

2553
01:55:23,629 --> 01:55:22,400
thousand dollars for data collection

2554
01:55:25,819 --> 01:55:23,639
okay

2555
01:55:28,879 --> 01:55:25,829
that's the last thing they need between

2556
01:55:30,290 --> 01:55:28,889
now and the summer but I agree with you

2557
01:55:32,649 --> 01:55:30,300
it's just that what you're going to

2558
01:55:35,149 --> 01:55:32,659
collect money from people for a project

2559
01:55:37,459 --> 01:55:35,159
it would help to be more forthcoming

2560
01:55:43,250 --> 01:55:37,469
about what's going on because it's just

2561
01:55:46,729 --> 01:55:43,260
not well presented right and I feel kind

2562
01:55:48,859 --> 01:55:46,739
of you know we you we ask people to give

2563
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:48,869
them money and you know this hasn't

2564
01:55:55,700 --> 01:55:53,250
happened yet and and yeah hopefully they

2565
01:55:58,220 --> 01:55:55,710
get that off the ground although it's

2566
01:56:00,080 --> 01:55:58,230
cute in nature it's difficult for

2567
01:56:03,530 --> 01:56:00,090
results to happen anyway because I think

2568
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:03,540
these Q's CubeSat are actually in orbit

2569
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:05,369
for around three months before they burn

2570
01:56:09,290 --> 01:56:06,570
up in the atmosphere

2571
01:56:12,020 --> 01:56:09,300
so you've got to get what you can during

2572
01:56:15,620 --> 01:56:12,030
that three months and to expect kind of

2573
01:56:18,260 --> 01:56:15,630
a you know a GoPro type of camera with

2574
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:18,270
maybe a couple other things on board to

2575
01:56:24,530 --> 01:56:21,599
capture something significant you know

2576
01:56:27,049 --> 01:56:24,540
and be pointed in the right direction or

2577
01:56:30,049 --> 01:56:27,059
or something to cruise by close enough

2578
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:30,059
it's kind of a stretch anyway but it's a

2579
01:56:36,339 --> 01:56:33,090
great idea and I detect that people have

2580
01:56:39,049 --> 01:56:36,349
the opportunity to put these into space

2581
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:39,059
create a lot of possibilities for the

2582
01:56:45,979 --> 01:56:42,300
future what sounds to me like a proof of

2583
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:45,989
concept yeah this idea works if it

2584
01:56:49,950 --> 01:56:48,000
succeeds they can get the kind of

2585
01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:49,960
information they need maybe not capture

2586
01:56:55,470 --> 01:56:52,870
a photo or some image of a strange craft

2587
01:56:59,490 --> 01:56:55,480
but get what they need maybe they could

2588
01:57:02,070 --> 01:56:59,500
get more funding for more satellites or

2589
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:02,080
more sophisticated satellite that would

2590
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by a teen right now et is here and he's

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on The X Files

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which came back oh well we're persisting

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here trying to look at the possible

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intelligence related connections of

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earlier on with Lewis Elizondo the so

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called whistleblower then looking at the

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various projects to set up networks of

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UFO detectors and what's gonna happen

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there I kind of think though that

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anytime the way this works anytime you

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get those things up there the UFOs will

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be elsewhere if they're smart they'll

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02:02:47,529 --> 02:02:45,679
trick us but you know as I was thinking

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02:02:49,839 --> 02:02:47,539
there it has nothing to do with anything

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02:02:52,839 --> 02:02:49,849
but I was looking at the announcement

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02:02:54,489 --> 02:02:52,849
for this contact in the desert event

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02:02:57,219 --> 02:02:54,499
which has some of the wackiest speakers

2727
02:03:00,819 --> 02:02:57,229
on the planet and I was thinking here

2728
02:03:02,830 --> 02:03:00,829
what if et is playing this game they're

2729
02:03:04,569 --> 02:03:02,840
kind of like extraterrestrial versions

2730
02:03:06,939 --> 02:03:04,579
of Jim Mosely and grey Barker

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02:03:09,449 --> 02:03:06,949
so they contact these channelers and

2732
02:03:13,149 --> 02:03:09,459
feed them a bunch of nonsense and

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02:03:15,969 --> 02:03:13,159
they're just laughing at these people

2734
02:03:17,949 --> 02:03:15,979
taking them seriously oh that's like

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02:03:19,209 --> 02:03:17,959
versus I'm talking about the perception

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02:03:21,129 --> 02:03:19,219
management operation where they're

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02:03:22,810 --> 02:03:21,139
running doubles instead of it being a

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02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:22,820
government agency it could be the ETS

2739
02:03:27,129 --> 02:03:24,320
themselves sure why not

2740
02:03:32,259 --> 02:03:27,139
in this case here we have people who

2741
02:03:35,229 --> 02:03:32,269
claim to channel et were beings who

2742
02:03:36,969 --> 02:03:35,239
claim to be star people and I'm what is

2743
02:03:39,459 --> 02:03:36,979
it what are they in touch with are they

2744
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:39,469
just making it up are they just crazy or

2745
02:03:45,310 --> 02:03:42,050
are they in touch with something now

2746
02:03:47,439 --> 02:03:45,320
just to give you an example the reason I

2747
02:03:50,169 --> 02:03:47,449
was thinking this I was reading the

2748
02:03:52,719 --> 02:03:50,179
subject matter or the focus of contact

2749
02:03:54,879 --> 02:03:52,729
in the desert adventure into the science

2750
02:03:57,879 --> 02:03:54,889
of UFOs and extraterrestrial life

2751
02:03:58,720 --> 02:03:57,889
ancient aliens human origins crop

2752
02:04:02,370 --> 02:03:58,730
circles

2753
02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:02,380
government disclosure UFO sightings

2754
02:04:10,150 --> 02:04:06,910
interstellar living oh yeah

2755
02:04:11,950 --> 02:04:10,160
interstellar living when you're talking

2756
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:11,960
about things like contact in the desert

2757
02:04:15,940 --> 02:04:13,520
and things like that

2758
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:15,950
that's vaudeville okay that doesn't mean

2759
02:04:20,110 --> 02:04:18,050
you're not going to have good speakers

2760
02:04:22,330 --> 02:04:20,120
or you know some people you know they're

2761
02:04:23,620 --> 02:04:22,340
but it's really vaudeville when you're

2762
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:23,630
getting into particularly when you get

2763
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:25,970
into the contactee culture I mean we've

2764
02:04:32,350 --> 02:04:29,810
seen so much more goofiness out of that

2765
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:32,360
culture you know then we've seen really

2766
02:04:39,250 --> 02:04:34,010
anything that would come anywhere near

2767
02:04:41,170 --> 02:04:39,260
legit so it's right for one of a few

2768
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:41,180
possibilities number one the

2769
02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:43,280
intelligence agencies you know could go

2770
02:04:48,670 --> 02:04:45,910
to one of these I call it the screw age

2771
02:04:51,220 --> 02:04:48,680
you know one of these New Age folks and

2772
02:04:53,050 --> 02:04:51,230
say yes we are from Venus and they'll

2773
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:53,060
believe it they'll love it they'll eat

2774
02:04:58,600 --> 02:04:56,690
it up or you could even have theoretical

2775
02:05:01,150 --> 02:04:58,610
I guess hypothetically you know we're

2776
02:05:04,090 --> 02:05:01,160
real et you know come to one of those

2777
02:05:05,890 --> 02:05:04,100
people and mess with them or you know a

2778
02:05:07,479 --> 02:05:05,900
lot of cases I think they're just making

2779
02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:07,489
the crap up themselves

2780
02:05:14,020 --> 02:05:11,510
I'm really really skeptical of the so

2781
02:05:16,810 --> 02:05:14,030
called contactee culture because because

2782
02:05:17,380 --> 02:05:16,820
of all the nonsense so I look at that as

2783
02:05:20,350 --> 02:05:17,390
vaudeville

2784
02:05:22,870 --> 02:05:20,360
well I kind of think especially in the

2785
02:05:24,670 --> 02:05:22,880
50s we may have had intelligence

2786
02:05:26,260 --> 02:05:24,680
connections but I'll give you quickly

2787
02:05:27,220 --> 02:05:26,270
the list of speakers and these are

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02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,230
people who bet

2789
02:05:31,420 --> 02:05:29,360
alejandra would probably never consider

2790
02:05:32,890 --> 02:05:31,430
some of these people he's had on others

2791
02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:32,900
he wouldn't so of course we have George

2792
02:05:40,900 --> 02:05:37,180
Noory Giorgio tsoukalos

2793
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:40,910
David Wilcock sue colos you see I don't

2794
02:05:45,940 --> 02:05:42,880
know anything about Greek pronunciations

2795
02:05:50,350 --> 02:05:45,950
David Wilcock Corey Goode erich von

2796
02:05:54,550 --> 02:05:50,360
daniken Linda Howe Nick Pope why is he

2797
02:05:56,860 --> 02:05:54,560
there he seems so you have legitimate

2798
02:06:00,700 --> 02:05:56,870
people at these events but that what

2799
02:06:04,330 --> 02:06:00,710
happens is you have knuckleheads like

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02:06:06,580 --> 02:06:04,340
Corey Goode in the mix and unfortunately

2801
02:06:09,820 --> 02:06:06,590
that kind of in some people's minds

2802
02:06:12,350 --> 02:06:09,830
legitimizes the knuckleheads and that's

2803
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:12,360
what you know they hope to do

2804
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:14,130
well let's just see who else is there

2805
02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:18,770
Michael Salah Paul Stonehill Mike bara

2806
02:06:26,810 --> 02:06:21,900
Richard Dolan now I've had my concerns

2807
02:06:30,620 --> 02:06:26,820
about Dolan why why yeah I don't know I

2808
02:06:33,860 --> 02:06:30,630
think he's been focusing more on selling

2809
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,870
books than doing research and giving

2810
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:35,280
lectures that's all

2811
02:06:42,220 --> 02:06:38,130
I wouldn't say I would I have concerns

2812
02:06:45,740 --> 02:06:42,230
with him in particular I just am NOT as

2813
02:06:47,810 --> 02:06:45,750
interested in some of the roads he's

2814
02:06:50,030 --> 02:06:47,820
been going down lately as I was when he

2815
02:06:52,430 --> 02:06:50,040
was doing the historical stuff but then

2816
02:06:56,780 --> 02:06:52,440
again that might make me boring but I

2817
02:07:00,980 --> 02:06:56,790
guess that's how on the false-flag thing

2818
02:07:03,230 --> 02:07:00,990
i that that to me is not such a psyche

2819
02:07:05,630 --> 02:07:03,240
gripping subject as it is for some

2820
02:07:08,030 --> 02:07:05,640
people I'm kind of boring with you on

2821
02:07:09,620 --> 02:07:08,040
that we're the ones recent stuff is I

2822
02:07:13,550 --> 02:07:09,630
know that's the new book he's working on

2823
02:07:14,540 --> 02:07:13,560
but the last book that he did was March

2824
02:07:18,650 --> 02:07:14,550
of last year

2825
02:07:21,740 --> 02:07:18,660
UFOs and disclosure in the Trump era but

2826
02:07:26,270 --> 02:07:21,750
it's only a short book like 85 pages and

2827
02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:26,280
then another one released in 2016 at the

2828
02:07:34,700 --> 02:07:29,040
secret space program and breakaway

2829
02:07:38,450 --> 02:07:34,710
civilizations yeah my most recent

2830
02:07:39,890 --> 02:07:38,460
appreciation of Dolan is by golly like

2831
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:39,900
for instance you can see it on video

2832
02:07:44,930 --> 02:07:42,450
when he was at the mutant thing and you

2833
02:07:47,690 --> 02:07:44,940
know he just kind of spoke honestly

2834
02:07:48,830 --> 02:07:47,700
about in that particular case some of

2835
02:07:50,990 --> 02:07:48,840
the people that were sitting right there

2836
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:51,000
at the table with him you know it needed

2837
02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:53,040
to be said that you know a lot of that

2838
02:07:59,660 --> 02:07:56,400
stuff you know being coddled is nonsense

2839
02:08:02,150 --> 02:07:59,670
and garbage and I really appreciated

2840
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:02,160
that because it just really needed to be

2841
02:08:07,310 --> 02:08:04,770
said the no matter what you think about

2842
02:08:09,410 --> 02:08:07,320
it okay personally the secret space

2843
02:08:12,380 --> 02:08:09,420
program breakaway civilization field so

2844
02:08:15,460 --> 02:08:12,390
to speak was actually headed in a good

2845
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:15,470
scholarly down-to-earth no pun intended

2846
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:20,010
direction and along comes the carnival

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02:08:25,220 --> 02:08:21,330
along comes

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02:08:27,770 --> 02:08:25,230
and good fishing themselves on to the

2849
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:27,780
you know the stage that was available to

2850
02:08:32,450 --> 02:08:30,330
this just pushing themselves and along

2851
02:08:38,060 --> 02:08:32,460
comes this nonsense about time-traveling

2852
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:38,070
Space commando guys and there's a lot of

2853
02:08:43,010 --> 02:08:39,450
people out there that love that stuff

2854
02:08:45,550 --> 02:08:43,020
and it kind of derailed it certainly

2855
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:45,560
grabbed of a spotlight away from the

2856
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:47,040
researchers that are a little more

2857
02:08:51,290 --> 02:08:49,050
serious about this

2858
02:08:55,730 --> 02:08:51,300
it certainly grabbed that spotlight and

2859
02:08:56,900 --> 02:08:55,740
it really derailed the direction as you

2860
02:08:59,120 --> 02:08:56,910
know particularly as far as public

2861
02:09:01,460 --> 02:08:59,130
interest in secret space program you

2862
02:09:03,140 --> 02:09:01,470
know now you know you got some big

2863
02:09:06,500 --> 02:09:03,150
voices that if they talk about secret

2864
02:09:10,820 --> 02:09:06,510
space program it's these bozos that in

2865
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:10,830
my opinion are making this crap up and

2866
02:09:17,210 --> 02:09:14,930
so I appreciated that Dolan you know

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02:09:18,980 --> 02:09:17,220
expressed you know you guys are coming

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02:09:21,170 --> 02:09:18,990
out with these stories and that's all

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02:09:23,330 --> 02:09:21,180
they are you have nothing to offer but

2870
02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:23,340
your testimony and then when they get

2871
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:25,110
somebody else to back up their testimony

2872
02:09:29,330 --> 02:09:27,450
it's one of their buddies okay it's

2873
02:09:32,050 --> 02:09:29,340
another clown in the circus saying that

2874
02:09:38,750 --> 02:09:32,060
oh yeah that clown I'll back him up and

2875
02:09:41,630 --> 02:09:38,760
you know it needs to be said yeah I

2876
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:41,640
totally agree with that um we are gonna

2877
02:09:46,130 --> 02:09:43,770
have TL Keller who was an aerospace

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02:09:49,610 --> 02:09:46,140
engineer his whole career and he's going

2879
02:09:52,070 --> 02:09:49,620
to touch on that topic but he is gonna

2880
02:09:54,050 --> 02:09:52,080
do it from an you know an educated

2881
02:09:56,420 --> 02:09:54,060
manner I mean he worked in the aerospace

2882
02:09:58,730 --> 02:09:56,430
industry so I think it should be

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02:10:01,940 --> 02:09:58,740
interesting he is friends with Jan Harz

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02:10:05,690 --> 02:10:01,950
an of course the director for move on

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02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:05,700
who is largely responsible for that

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02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:07,890
group of speakers that they had at the

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last conference will explore more about

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secret space program Walter G Noah Hahn

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certainly an original one right there

2990
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the people at the network or just gonna

2991
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freak out but that's okay we've got to

2992
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have fun with the people with the

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network you know they asked us the other

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day a couple of stations want to pick up

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the power cast and they said are we ever

2996
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green and I said what's that

2997
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evergreen means that there's nothing on

2998
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the show to tie it specifically into a

2999
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date except in a very rough way so we

3000
02:15:30,430 --> 02:15:28,969
don't say go Tuesday to this event

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because somebody might run the show on

3002
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Friday so that thing seems out of light

3003
02:15:38,669 --> 02:15:36,110
yeah so we'll try to be more evergreen

3004
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:38,679
how's that but we'll warn people about

3005
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the I UFO see far enough in advance for

3006
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you to prepare it even if you listen to

3007
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the show a week later how's that work

3008
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out all right secret space program

3009
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forgetting the nonsense what are the

3010
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facts Walter Bosley that's what we're

3011
02:16:02,799 --> 02:16:01,340
trying to figure out that's really what

3012
02:16:05,310 --> 02:16:02,809
we're trying to dig out there are

3013
02:16:08,229 --> 02:16:05,320
indicators that there is one there is

3014
02:16:11,939 --> 02:16:08,239
definitely there is definitely an

3015
02:16:16,540 --> 02:16:11,949
historical context to argue for the

3016
02:16:19,299 --> 02:16:16,550
hypothesis but those of us guys like us

3017
02:16:21,700 --> 02:16:19,309
three and you know Galvin and you know

3018
02:16:24,790 --> 02:16:21,710
us people on the outside of it that are

3019
02:16:28,089 --> 02:16:24,800
trying to you know figure it out we

3020
02:16:30,279 --> 02:16:28,099
can't say for sure you know some of us

3021
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,289
are more confident than others but it's

3022
02:16:35,759 --> 02:16:32,479
definitely an elephant that's in the

3023
02:16:38,620 --> 02:16:35,769
room and and absolutely is a legitimate

3024
02:16:42,459 --> 02:16:38,630
point to be considered within the

3025
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:42,469
greater UFO mystery research field but

3026
02:16:50,110 --> 02:16:46,880
it needs to stay rooted in you know

3027
02:16:51,610 --> 02:16:50,120
serious nuts and bolts and Anakin and in

3028
02:16:53,049 --> 02:16:51,620
the good in case of the work of

3029
02:16:56,219 --> 02:16:53,059
Catherine aunts and Fitz not just the

3030
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:56,229
nuts and bolts the accounting books okay

3031
02:17:00,030 --> 02:16:58,010
you know follow the money

3032
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:00,040
that's where SS

3033
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:03,010
P research needs to focus this again

3034
02:17:08,850 --> 02:17:04,530
going back to we mentioned it before

3035
02:17:11,070 --> 02:17:08,860
this crap of you know these blue avians

3036
02:17:13,650 --> 02:17:11,080
come pick me up in a bubble and take me

3037
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:13,660
up to their you know their space station

3038
02:17:18,959 --> 02:17:16,719
that's all new-age cultism that stuff

3039
02:17:22,110 --> 02:17:18,969
has no business being on the same stage

3040
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:22,120
with serious researchers and and I think

3041
02:17:25,860 --> 02:17:23,530
serious researchers need to start

3042
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:25,870
rejecting I know everybody needs to make

3043
02:17:29,730 --> 02:17:28,090
a buck believe me I do too but I think

3044
02:17:33,299 --> 02:17:29,740
serious researchers need to start

3045
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:33,309
rejecting these events my understanding

3046
02:17:37,350 --> 02:17:35,290
is is it that the MUFON thing I could be

3047
02:17:39,089 --> 02:17:37,360
wrong that a lot of those guys had no

3048
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:39,099
idea who you know what would be

3049
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:41,200
happening the next day and they probably

3050
02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:44,290
had already committed but I think from

3051
02:17:49,770 --> 02:17:46,510
here on out I think serious researchers

3052
02:17:53,100 --> 02:17:49,780
ought to just say no if Corey Goode and

3053
02:17:55,410 --> 02:17:53,110
bass Iago and Saleh and you know

3054
02:17:57,060 --> 02:17:55,420
Tompkins is gone now if guys like that

3055
02:17:58,500 --> 02:17:57,070
are gonna be speaking on the same stage

3056
02:18:00,540 --> 02:17:58,510
I'm not interested no thank you

3057
02:18:03,450 --> 02:18:00,550
they need to put their foot down if they

3058
02:18:04,620 --> 02:18:03,460
want to be continued to have SSP

3059
02:18:06,299 --> 02:18:04,630
research taken seriously

3060
02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:06,309
jad that's what I've done I'm not

3061
02:18:10,589 --> 02:18:08,080
speaking at contact in the desert

3062
02:18:12,629 --> 02:18:10,599
anymore they had me a couple years up

3063
02:18:16,740 --> 02:18:12,639
because I agree with you there are

3064
02:18:19,230 --> 02:18:16,750
charlatans and we certainly at least you

3065
02:18:21,299 --> 02:18:19,240
know and I'm I don't own the UFO

3066
02:18:24,020 --> 02:18:21,309
Congress nor have I ever but I do have

3067
02:18:27,570 --> 02:18:24,030
influence on one who speaks at somewhat

3068
02:18:29,010 --> 02:18:27,580
and and it is more of a populist thing

3069
02:18:31,530 --> 02:18:29,020
to try to represent the field as a whole

3070
02:18:33,930 --> 02:18:31,540
but what I'm always completely against

3071
02:18:37,709 --> 02:18:33,940
of course is it's anybody who I believe

3072
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:37,719
is lying or we know is lying and I agree

3073
02:18:42,690 --> 02:18:38,530
with you there

3074
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:42,700
that that that's a huge problem we can't

3075
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:46,719
let that be okay you know luckily it

3076
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:49,450
came to light you know hi Mays massan's

3077
02:18:56,610 --> 02:18:53,200
antics and so the owner of the the

3078
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:56,620
Congress - owned at last then said okay

3079
02:18:59,970 --> 02:18:58,000
we're not going to have him come back

3080
02:19:02,120 --> 02:18:59,980
anymore and I was thankful because I had

3081
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:02,130
been telling him look we've caught him

3082
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:05,110
being dishonest many times we can't

3083
02:19:10,470 --> 02:19:08,559
promote that or and so finally he got

3084
02:19:12,839 --> 02:19:10,480
convinced especially after Roswell slide

3085
02:19:13,860 --> 02:19:12,849
seeing and and then he was never invited

3086
02:19:16,890 --> 02:19:13,870
back

3087
02:19:20,010 --> 02:19:16,900
but yeah if we want to be taken

3088
02:19:23,430 --> 02:19:20,020
seriously and you know I've thought in

3089
02:19:25,740 --> 02:19:23,440
the past originally when I was started

3090
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:25,750
to seriously consider maybe we are being

3091
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:28,090
visited it would make sense that perhaps

3092
02:19:32,610 --> 02:19:31,120
if there is an ability for people to

3093
02:19:35,730 --> 02:19:32,620
have some sort of psychic connection

3094
02:19:37,860 --> 02:19:35,740
that perhaps people are getting messages

3095
02:19:40,379 --> 02:19:37,870
or having some sort of conversations

3096
02:19:41,820 --> 02:19:40,389
it's possible but you know when you do

3097
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:41,830
the research and this is what's really

3098
02:19:46,650 --> 02:19:44,110
weird especially when you talk about

3099
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:46,660
cognitive dissonance is that these

3100
02:19:50,910 --> 02:19:48,880
people are listening to a lecture of

3101
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:50,920
this guy talking to the blue avians

3102
02:19:54,990 --> 02:19:53,050
the next last year is this guy talking

3103
02:19:57,270 --> 02:19:55,000
to so-and-so this guy talking or a

3104
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:57,280
person talking to so-and-so and they're

3105
02:20:02,580 --> 02:19:58,720
all saying something completely

3106
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:02,590
different yet the attendees will go oh

3107
02:20:06,390 --> 02:20:04,570
my god isn't an amazing that this person

3108
02:20:08,730 --> 02:20:06,400
said this and that person said this and

3109
02:20:10,500 --> 02:20:08,740
it's like yeah but this person said I'm

3110
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:10,510
the only one talking to alien to

3111
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:12,640
everybody else is wrong and so did the

3112
02:20:17,460 --> 02:20:15,490
next person but you believe them all you

3113
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:17,470
can't do that that that doesn't work

3114
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:24,490
that is the definition the first time

3115
02:20:29,580 --> 02:20:27,010
you hear and and again Corey Goode does

3116
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:29,590
this where he's the official ambassador

3117
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:31,690
of the blue avians and anybody else

3118
02:20:37,051 --> 02:20:34,930
who's you know claiming unless he's

3119
02:20:39,150 --> 02:20:37,061
unless he knows that they're legitimate

3120
02:20:41,250 --> 02:20:39,160
they're not legitimate well that right

3121
02:20:45,150 --> 02:20:41,260
there he's moving towards cult leader

3122
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:45,160
okay and anybody who does that kind of

3123
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:46,960
stuff it's I'm the real deal this guy is

3124
02:20:51,330 --> 02:20:49,120
not now they started doing this little

3125
02:20:53,551 --> 02:20:51,340
thing where they they're they're forming

3126
02:20:55,530 --> 02:20:53,561
their little buddies circle and they're

3127
02:20:57,210 --> 02:20:55,540
but like I said before all the clowns

3128
02:20:59,400 --> 02:20:57,220
are backing each other up you know in

3129
02:21:02,460 --> 02:20:59,410
the same circus and that's kind of what

3130
02:21:05,250 --> 02:21:02,470
we saw at the the MUFON secret space

3131
02:21:07,710 --> 02:21:05,260
program event was you know everybody

3132
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:07,720
else at that table except you know Dolan

3133
02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:10,450
they're kind of corroborating and

3134
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:13,150
backing each other up to various degrees

3135
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,090
and so that is a tactic that they're

3136
02:21:21,210 --> 02:21:19,120
trying but they're vying for that

3137
02:21:24,540 --> 02:21:21,220
spotlight no matter how much they

3138
02:21:26,410 --> 02:21:24,550
cooperate you know to put up a front to

3139
02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:26,420
the resistance to their nonsense

3140
02:21:32,580 --> 02:21:28,640
between themselves they each one of them

3141
02:21:35,979 --> 02:21:32,590
wants to be a star or the star and

3142
02:21:38,380 --> 02:21:35,989
that's what's going on there and again

3143
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:38,390
what is this it's distracting from the

3144
02:21:45,580 --> 02:21:42,290
actual you know serious research aspects

3145
02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:45,590
of it and it taints the actual research

3146
02:21:51,429 --> 02:21:49,760
now honestly you bring up SSP to people

3147
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:51,439
and because they've been exposed to the

3148
02:21:56,290 --> 02:21:53,810
you know this this blue avian Corey

3149
02:21:58,990 --> 02:21:56,300
Goode nonsense and all this you know

3150
02:22:01,210 --> 02:21:59,000
these time jumper guys basiago and and

3151
02:22:04,990 --> 02:22:01,220
the the stand the stuff Thompkins and

3152
02:22:06,700 --> 02:22:05,000
all them solid were saying now it it

3153
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:06,710
gets painted with the same brush

3154
02:22:12,250 --> 02:22:10,250
you know the SSP thing lead and that's

3155
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:12,260
really unfortunate but that might have

3156
02:22:17,590 --> 02:22:15,050
been the plan well a plan but it's also

3157
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:17,600
I think partially human nature it was

3158
02:22:22,540 --> 02:22:20,000
kind of I did my lecture at the last

3159
02:22:24,760 --> 02:22:22,550
conference was about UFO religions and

3160
02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:24,770
the first part was about religions and

3161
02:22:28,330 --> 02:22:26,210
how they're influenced but the second

3162
02:22:31,710 --> 02:22:28,340
part is about these new religions that

3163
02:22:35,050 --> 02:22:31,720
are springing up but my point was that

3164
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:35,060
you know a lot of this is is an old

3165
02:22:40,330 --> 02:22:37,250
religious experience for people some

3166
02:22:42,399 --> 02:22:40,340
people get set on a worldview and they

3167
02:22:44,559 --> 02:22:42,409
just want that in force they don't care

3168
02:22:46,570 --> 02:22:44,569
otherwise that's how they want to feel

3169
02:22:48,550 --> 02:22:46,580
that's how they want to view the world

3170
02:22:50,979 --> 02:22:48,560
and that's how a lot of these attendees

3171
02:22:55,269 --> 02:22:50,989
are it's more of a religious experience

3172
02:22:58,120 --> 02:22:55,279
than really blue reality of life sort of

3173
02:22:59,889 --> 02:22:58,130
experience and and so people like us get

3174
02:23:02,229 --> 02:22:59,899
really frustrated with these people

3175
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:02,239
but I guess it's something that we have

3176
02:23:07,360 --> 02:23:05,120
to identify that there's a difference

3177
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:07,370
between research and the religious

3178
02:23:12,070 --> 02:23:10,010
experience and just like in life the

3179
02:23:14,260 --> 02:23:12,080
religious experience often has a lot

3180
02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:14,270
more followers a lot of more devotees

3181
02:23:19,469 --> 02:23:17,090
who are very into that and they're going

3182
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:19,479
to spend more time and resource on that

3183
02:23:27,429 --> 02:23:23,840
end of things because it's easier it is

3184
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:27,439
your right to leave than to find out and

3185
02:23:33,649 --> 02:23:29,210
know for sure mm-hmm

3186
02:23:37,010 --> 02:23:33,659
yep there is that to say

3187
02:23:40,039 --> 02:23:37,020
but how does the individual find

3188
02:23:44,659 --> 02:23:40,049
evidence of a secret space program how

3189
02:23:47,300 --> 02:23:44,669
far you have to air in and just start

3190
02:23:50,419 --> 02:23:47,310
digging and reading and looking for

3191
02:23:52,789 --> 02:23:50,429
yourself you you really do I'm gonna ask

3192
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:52,799
you in our final segment Walter Bosley

3193
02:23:57,859 --> 02:23:55,439
how far you think we've gone with the

3194
02:24:00,609 --> 02:23:57,869
secret space program in perfecting space

3195
02:24:03,409 --> 02:24:00,619
travel are we using alien technology

3196
02:24:04,340 --> 02:24:03,419
what's going on there we'll get to that

3197
02:24:06,829 --> 02:24:04,350
in a moment

3198
02:24:12,099 --> 02:24:06,839
and also Alejandra will talk to us about

3199
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his upcoming event in Arizona with Jean

3200
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Alejandro and Walter you're in the bear

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guest

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3250
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3251
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ransacked the place and what they don't

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3258
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and fake TV should be part of your

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hi this is Joshua p1 author of the poor

3302
02:28:50,591 --> 02:28:48,110
vans paranormal and you're listening to

3303
02:29:04,001 --> 02:28:50,601
the podcast the gold standard of

3304
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paranormal radio so Walter Bosley

3305
02:29:08,381 --> 02:29:05,420
assuming there is some kind of secret

3306
02:29:10,961 --> 02:29:08,391
space program beyond just launching spy

3307
02:29:11,801 --> 02:29:10,971
satellites of course where do you think

3308
02:29:14,200 --> 02:29:11,811
it's taking us

3309
02:29:16,660 --> 02:29:14,210
okay here's what I think this is just my

3310
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:16,670
personal speculation on where I think

3311
02:29:21,461 --> 02:29:19,250
it's at I think that they have some type

3312
02:29:24,490 --> 02:29:21,471
of propulsion system that we often call

3313
02:29:27,011 --> 02:29:24,500
exotic I think they've very you know we

3314
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:27,021
call it an Tygra call it whatever I

3315
02:29:33,341 --> 02:29:29,110
think they do have some type of

3316
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:33,351
propulsion system that is different from

3317
02:29:41,801 --> 02:29:37,840
rocketry I do not see it as some

3318
02:29:46,180 --> 02:29:41,811
Starfleet type of Endeavour out there

3319
02:29:49,211 --> 02:29:46,190
yet honestly I think that any kind of

3320
02:29:51,940 --> 02:29:49,221
interplanetary ships we have in my

3321
02:29:54,490 --> 02:29:51,950
opinion would be akin to a you know a

3322
02:29:57,730 --> 02:29:54,500
submarine a modern submarine you know

3323
02:30:00,040 --> 02:29:57,740
would be relatively you know I when I

3324
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:00,050
say relatively compared it to the

3325
02:30:03,430 --> 02:30:01,610
Starship Enterprise and these things

3326
02:30:06,430 --> 02:30:03,440
people envision you know it would be

3327
02:30:08,620 --> 02:30:06,440
essentially a submarine in space and I

3328
02:30:12,280 --> 02:30:08,630
think we have put again I think I

3329
02:30:15,251 --> 02:30:12,290
speculate I hypothesize I think we've

3330
02:30:17,830 --> 02:30:15,261
put boots on the ground on Mars I don't

3331
02:30:20,910 --> 02:30:17,840
think we ever really left the moon but

3332
02:30:23,230 --> 02:30:20,920
as far as it being some advanced mondo

3333
02:30:25,961 --> 02:30:23,240
Starship Enterprise Starfleet type of

3334
02:30:29,711 --> 02:30:25,971
thing no no no no I mean it's not that

3335
02:30:31,751 --> 02:30:29,721
far that's what I think about that so we

3336
02:30:34,091 --> 02:30:31,761
don't have a special command center at

3337
02:30:36,870 --> 02:30:34,101
Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station near

3338
02:30:41,051 --> 02:30:36,880
Colorado Springs as they do in stargate

3339
02:30:44,020 --> 02:30:41,061
stargate like thinking of the TV and of

3340
02:30:46,001 --> 02:30:44,030
course you know yeah yeah yeah well see

3341
02:30:47,470 --> 02:30:46,011
now you're getting into that's another

3342
02:30:49,480 --> 02:30:47,480
discussion the whole thing about inner

3343
02:30:52,091 --> 02:30:49,490
dimension and portals and stuff like

3344
02:30:52,950 --> 02:30:52,101
that when you say SSP to me you know I'm

3345
02:30:57,240 --> 02:30:52,960
addressing

3346
02:31:00,660 --> 02:30:57,250
the a manned space program okay and

3347
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:00,670
basically what I think is that the space

3348
02:31:06,750 --> 02:31:03,370
program the man program the secret

3349
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:06,760
military one developed parallel to what

3350
02:31:12,300 --> 02:31:09,760
NASA did publicly but a little bit ahead

3351
02:31:14,370 --> 02:31:12,310
you know and and drew a little bit

3352
02:31:16,830 --> 02:31:14,380
farther ahead with each year but nothing

3353
02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:16,840
drastically ahead the manned space

3354
02:31:20,910 --> 02:31:18,399
program thing just what I described

3355
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:20,920
before now I don't know what they would

3356
02:31:25,860 --> 02:31:23,170
have as far as what they're playing with

3357
02:31:27,929 --> 02:31:25,870
inter-dimensionally but I'm gonna say no

3358
02:31:29,700 --> 02:31:27,939
because I understand the context of your

3359
02:31:32,189 --> 02:31:29,710
question to what you're asking because

3360
02:31:33,719 --> 02:31:32,199
you know I don't believe we have like

3361
02:31:36,689 --> 02:31:33,729
these jump rooms that Mister

3362
02:31:40,110 --> 02:31:36,699
time-traveling space commando guy claims

3363
02:31:43,219 --> 02:31:40,120
I just don't think that whatever they're

3364
02:31:46,650 --> 02:31:43,229
doing with portals I think is still in

3365
02:31:49,469 --> 02:31:46,660
fairly early stages that could be wrong

3366
02:31:51,479 --> 02:31:49,479
it would be nice though I think could be

3367
02:31:55,050 --> 02:31:51,489
a lot better just to work onto something

3368
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:55,060
and be on another planet and have to go

3369
02:32:02,150 --> 02:32:00,640
and spend days or years to get there we

3370
02:32:04,139 --> 02:32:02,160
don't know it could just be these

3371
02:32:06,300 --> 02:32:04,149
interplanetary craft I'm talking about

3372
02:32:08,729 --> 02:32:06,310
remember these other propulsion systems

3373
02:32:12,179 --> 02:32:08,739
they could be from here to Mars in just

3374
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:12,189
a matter of weeks or days depending upon

3375
02:32:17,070 --> 02:32:14,290
how advanced they are if they're that

3376
02:32:19,500 --> 02:32:17,080
advanced shouldn't we see more of that

3377
02:32:24,990 --> 02:32:19,510
technology filtering into our public

3378
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:25,000
space program remember you said humans

3379
02:32:29,639 --> 02:32:27,010
are creatures of habit and stuff right I

3380
02:32:31,559 --> 02:32:29,649
mean our public space program by using

3381
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:31,569
rockets and doing the the you know the

3382
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:34,210
the tiddlywinks stuff we do in orbit you

3383
02:32:39,719 --> 02:32:36,160
know with the shuttle you know that

3384
02:32:43,019 --> 02:32:39,729
employs people it satisfies certain

3385
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:43,029
technological objectives particularly

3386
02:32:47,960 --> 02:32:44,560
with you know like developing and I

3387
02:32:50,880 --> 02:32:47,970
think the reason we publicly focus on

3388
02:32:53,219 --> 02:32:50,890
you know what like what NASA does with

3389
02:32:57,630 --> 02:32:53,229
the the shuttle stuff is because it

3390
02:33:00,719 --> 02:32:57,640
serves scientific and pretty soon

3391
02:33:04,110 --> 02:33:00,729
industrial objectives that are are fine

3392
02:33:05,810 --> 02:33:04,120
but it's a separate thing from what the

3393
02:33:09,050 --> 02:33:05,820
secret space programs objectives

3394
02:33:11,420 --> 02:33:09,060
our and part of a secret space program

3395
02:33:13,220 --> 02:33:11,430
objective would be you know that

3396
02:33:15,470 --> 02:33:13,230
military thing where you want to keep

3397
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:15,480
that upper hand or maybe there is a

3398
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:17,010
threat that the public doesn't know

3399
02:33:21,940 --> 02:33:19,170
about that they've got to come up to a

3400
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:21,950
certain level because of all the secrecy

3401
02:33:27,560 --> 02:33:24,510
that's why some of that doesn't trickle

3402
02:33:29,540 --> 02:33:27,570
into you know what NASA does as far as

3403
02:33:32,870 --> 02:33:29,550
we know there could be some trickling

3404
02:33:35,060 --> 02:33:32,880
that you know because remember NASA is a

3405
02:33:37,310 --> 02:33:35,070
defense organization I mean we all know

3406
02:33:38,780 --> 02:33:37,320
that that's in the paperwork there are

3407
02:33:41,810 --> 02:33:38,790
aspects of NASA that do remain

3408
02:33:43,340 --> 02:33:41,820
classified so as far as we know we're

3409
02:33:45,710 --> 02:33:43,350
not seeing much trickling but there

3410
02:33:47,990 --> 02:33:45,720
could be more than we realize well I

3411
02:33:49,550 --> 02:33:48,000
think that and NASA is going to be the

3412
02:33:53,210 --> 02:33:49,560
last people to get it but just because

3413
02:33:55,490 --> 02:33:53,220
they are a public organization but the

3414
02:33:58,700 --> 02:33:55,500
people who would get it and would vie

3415
02:34:01,370 --> 02:33:58,710
for it is is the public sector because

3416
02:34:04,190 --> 02:34:01,380
these remember all these craft are being

3417
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:04,200
built by defense contractors the big

3418
02:34:08,240 --> 02:34:06,090
guys the bowings and the Lockheed

3419
02:34:10,400 --> 02:34:08,250
Martin's and all of these guys and if

3420
02:34:13,700 --> 02:34:10,410
they could see a way to make gobs of

3421
02:34:15,860 --> 02:34:13,710
money then they are gonna lobby to be

3422
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:15,870
able to use that technology to make that

3423
02:34:21,860 --> 02:34:19,010
money and so I think that's another

3424
02:34:24,380 --> 02:34:21,870
aspect that I think that we would see

3425
02:34:27,100 --> 02:34:24,390
these in the private sector just for so

3426
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:27,110
these companies can make money profits

3427
02:34:32,420 --> 02:34:30,690
that's why I say that secret space

3428
02:34:34,340 --> 02:34:32,430
program the idea of which I'm obviously

3429
02:34:35,420 --> 02:34:34,350
a strong advocate for everything about

3430
02:34:38,570 --> 02:34:35,430
this I stand by it

3431
02:34:40,970 --> 02:34:38,580
that but that's why I say it's not quite

3432
02:34:44,380 --> 02:34:40,980
as advanced as people think because

3433
02:34:48,230 --> 02:34:44,390
you're absolutely right we would see

3434
02:34:50,660 --> 02:34:48,240
more of it and they would Lobby to say

3435
02:34:54,590 --> 02:34:50,670
hey let us you know instead of these

3436
02:34:56,480 --> 02:34:54,600
these darn you know 767s or 7/7 whatever

3437
02:34:58,850 --> 02:34:56,490
you know em 10:1 eleven thirteen four

3438
02:35:01,070 --> 02:34:58,860
zero x you know instead of you know the

3439
02:35:02,690 --> 02:35:01,080
normal aircraft we're using let us start

3440
02:35:05,390 --> 02:35:02,700
you know getting people from Los Angeles

3441
02:35:07,220 --> 02:35:05,400
to Paris in two hours you're right you

3442
02:35:10,460 --> 02:35:07,230
know that they would be doing stuff like

3443
02:35:15,980 --> 02:35:10,470
that but that's why I say that you know

3444
02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:15,990
there is an SSP I stand by that and but

3445
02:35:19,341 --> 02:35:18,450
but that's why I say it's not quite as

3446
02:35:23,690 --> 02:35:19,351
advanced

3447
02:35:26,781 --> 02:35:23,700
as people would like it to be Alejandro

3448
02:35:30,650 --> 02:35:26,791
Rojas tell our listeners about your

3449
02:35:31,791 --> 02:35:30,660
upcoming conference well thank you first

3450
02:35:34,041 --> 02:35:31,801
of all this has been a great discussion

3451
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:34,051
thanks for having me as a guest on here

3452
02:35:38,360 --> 02:35:35,490
it was a lot of fun but the conference

3453
02:35:41,301 --> 02:35:38,370
is it's gonna be really cool like I said

3454
02:35:44,211 --> 02:35:41,311
we were I've been really happy to be

3455
02:35:47,031 --> 02:35:44,221
speaking with an Lu Elizondo he's

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animate he's a great guy and he's so

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open and he was so looking forward to

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coming to the conference and meeting

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people and talking to people and

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unfortunately you know he's not gonna be

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able to make it but he's still really

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excited to address the group and he

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thinks very very highly at least he

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02:36:04,610 --> 02:36:03,450
claims to think very very highly of UFO

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researchers and they've been a big

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02:36:10,461 --> 02:36:08,041
inspiration for him so he's going to be

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02:36:12,501 --> 02:36:10,471
sharing some of that so that's gonna be

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02:36:15,051 --> 02:36:12,511
really cool on Saturday definitely come

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02:36:16,850 --> 02:36:15,061
to see that we've got other really

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02:36:18,711 --> 02:36:16,860
exciting things you can check out at UFO

3471
02:36:21,921 --> 02:36:18,721
congress.com but we're wrapping it up

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02:36:24,591 --> 02:36:21,931
it's it's it's almost ready to go this

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could be in February February 14th to

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the 18th in the Phoenix metro area and

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it's five days it's a lot of fun it's

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02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:32,190
less expensive than let's say a MUFON

3477
02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:34,530
conference but more than twice as long

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02:36:39,171 --> 02:36:37,650
and twice as many speakers Walter Bosley

3479
02:36:42,791 --> 02:36:39,181
we want to know more about the things

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02:36:49,761 --> 02:36:46,071
demand only at lulu.com

3481
02:36:51,940 --> 02:36:49,771
that's lu lu comm i do have a youtube

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02:36:55,220 --> 02:36:51,950
channel the Walter Bosley channel and

3483
02:36:57,081 --> 02:36:55,230
there's going to be more vids this year

3484
02:36:59,781 --> 02:36:57,091
I get one out about every couple of

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02:37:02,331 --> 02:36:59,791
weeks in the past I'm out there I'm at

3486
02:37:04,251 --> 02:37:02,341
Emperor the wheel blog spot.com also

3487
02:37:08,241 --> 02:37:04,261
will look at it and we'll have links to

3488
02:37:10,371 --> 02:37:08,251
both the conference and also to Walters

3489
02:37:13,060 --> 02:37:10,381
site on the power cast you can check us

3490
02:37:16,791 --> 02:37:13,070
out on Twitter which we use occasionally

3491
02:37:19,581 --> 02:37:16,801
look for the power cast you know I can't

3492
02:37:21,860 --> 02:37:19,591
tweet and have 400 million people see it

3493
02:37:26,350 --> 02:37:21,870
like some people can but that could be a

3494
02:37:29,741 --> 02:37:26,360
curse as much as a benefit we have to

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02:37:32,030 --> 02:37:29,751
Facebook believe err not to Facebook

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02:37:34,580 --> 02:37:32,040
communities or channel

3497
02:37:36,350 --> 02:37:34,590
or whatever official power cast fanclub

3498
02:37:38,390 --> 02:37:36,360
one community one group that's how it

3499
02:37:40,310 --> 02:37:38,400
works we also have our second radio show

3500
02:37:43,580 --> 02:37:40,320
after the power cast which can be the

3501
02:37:46,580 --> 02:37:43,590
wrap-up show special interviews like the

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02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:46,590
one we did long time back not that long

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02:37:51,970 --> 02:37:49,170
with Monty Shriver who lived an Aztec

3504
02:37:54,680 --> 02:37:51,980
New Mexico in 1948 around that time

3505
02:37:57,761 --> 02:37:54,690
asked his friends at a class reunion do

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02:38:01,580 --> 02:37:57,771
you remember anything happening in 1948

3507
02:38:03,200 --> 02:38:01,590
they all said no nothing happened

3508
02:38:05,930 --> 02:38:03,210
that's the kind of interviews we do

3509
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,940
really special things it's available if

3510
02:38:10,820 --> 02:38:07,680
you subscribe to the power cast plus

3511
02:38:14,540 --> 02:38:10,830
go-to plus dot the power cast com that's

3512
02:38:16,011 --> 02:38:14,550
plus dot the power cast come you also

3513
02:38:18,410 --> 02:38:16,021
get a version of this show free of the

3514
02:38:20,780 --> 02:38:18,420
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3515
02:38:22,730 --> 02:38:20,790
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3516
02:38:25,580 --> 02:38:22,740
commercials we have the solution for you

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02:38:28,761 --> 02:38:25,590
for a modest fee plus that the power

3518
02:38:31,940 --> 02:38:28,771
cast come our guest co-host Alejandro

3519
02:38:32,920 --> 02:38:31,950
Rojas thank you for joining us thank you

3520
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:32,930
it's my pleasure

3521
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:35,730
Walter Bosley thank you for being a

3522
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:37,850
fountain of information as always a

3523
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:39,930
fountain of something thanks for having

3524
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:42,450
me on I always appreciate coming on and

3525
02:38:59,190 --> 02:38:56,280
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3526
02:39:02,179 --> 02:38:59,200
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:02,189
presentation of making the impossible